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Why do we call when we know we are beat?



Posted Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:41 pm GMT by Geno
Great flop for me but given the calls he made on the flop and turn, I was 95% sure I was beat. Had he flopped TPTK he was beating me on the turn and had he flopped an up and downer with 69, he had me done on the river. Then there was the big chance he had a set of 3s. THEN he bet the right amount to make me call. I'm such a donk Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

PokerStars Game #8390138339: Tournament #42765271, $13+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/02/11 - 14:38:12 (ET)
Table '42765271 2' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: brodyjracine (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: bikefreak26 (6880 in chips)
Seat 3: GenoTHP (5705 in chips)
Seat 4: IADAWG (1960 in chips)
Seat 6: ChiSox47 (645 in chips)
Seat 7: slcikjim (4965 in chips)
Seat 8: Jbodeen (3380 in chips)
Seat 9: wjmitchell (1985 in chips)
bikefreak26: posts small blind 75
GenoTHP: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GenoTHP Seven of HeartsEight of Hearts
IADAWG: folds
ChiSox47: folds
slcikjim: folds
Jbodeen: calls 150
wjmitchell: folds
brodyjracine: calls 150
bikefreak26: calls 75
GenoTHP: checks
*** FLOP *** Eight of ClubsThree of HeartsSeven of Diamonds
bikefreak26: checks
GenoTHP: bets 300
slcikjim said, "finally he donked out"
Jbodeen: calls 300
brodyjracine: folds
bikefreak26: folds
*** TURN *** Eight of ClubsThree of HeartsSeven of Diamonds Ace of Clubs
bikefreak26 said, "lol"
GenoTHP: bets 750
ChiSox47 said, "yeah.......I wasnt a big fan of his"
Jbodeen: calls 750
*** RIVER *** Eight of ClubsThree of HeartsSeven of DiamondsAce of Clubs Ten of Diamonds
GenoTHP: checks
slcikjim said, "me neither"
slcikjim said, "was all in preflop way too many times"
Jbodeen: bets 1050
GenoTHP: calls 1050
slcikjim said, "bout time he got caught"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jbodeen: shows Three of ClubsThree of Spades (three of a kind, Threes)
GenoTHP: mucks hand
Jbodeen collected 4800 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4800 | Rake 0
Board Eight of ClubsThree of HeartsSeven of DiamondsAce of ClubsTen of Diamonds
Seat 1: brodyjracine (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: bikefreak26 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: GenoTHP (big blind) mucked Seven of HeartsEight of Hearts
Seat 4: IADAWG folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ChiSox47 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: slcikjim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Jbodeen showed Three of ClubsThree of Spades and won (4800) with three of a kind, Threes
Seat 9: wjmitchell folded before Flop (didn't bet)


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Posted Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:38 pm GMT by Muck
"Why do we call when we know we are beat?"

Why do people buy lottery tickets?

Because we want to win and it’s the only move that gives us the chance.



Posted Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:28 pm GMT by JMX360
I've sometimes called down people (so long as it's not a huge amount) for information. It could help in the long run.


Posted Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:26 pm GMT by MrDarling
I was meaning to start a similiar thread,

Do we always call value bets with decent hands?

Its great playing at micro levels when villain tell you they have a monster and over bet. But rarely you play with good players that actually value bet. You are priced to call with your 2 pair, over pair, and even TPTK.

So, is it a leak to call those when you think you are behind?

You know what, I'll post it in a new thread Smile



Posted Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:07 pm GMT by MasterMike
i guess its that whole lottery thing.. We know we probably wont win, but there is always that chance.

Also, i think our hands make us blind to the fact that even though we just about know we are beat, we still want to think that we arent, thinking "well what could he have".

ive wondered the same thing






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