Posted Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:52 pm GMT by exit music
45-man Turbo $6+.50 SNG on pokerstars. This is just a quick question about bubbleplay - call and take a coinflip or fold and look for some fold-equity later on....?
POKERSTARS GAME #8410320804: TOURNAMENT #42862717, $6.00+$0.50 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL X (400/800) - 2007/02/12 - 18:46:00 (ET)
Table '42862717 3' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jera75 (10190 in chips)
Seat 2: fne12001 (4873 in chips)
Seat 3: steam728 (2947 in chips)
Seat 4: PctureMeRlln (5733 in chips)
Seat 5: astrodg (3950 in chips)
Seat 6: Kid_Amar11 (20969 in chips)
Seat 7: simplyred10 (7060 in chips)
Seat 9: pasfacile (11778 in chips)
jera75: posts the ante 50
fne12001: posts the ante 50
steam728: posts the ante 50
PctureMeRlln: posts the ante 50
astrodg: posts the ante 50
Kid_Amar11: posts the ante 50
simplyred10: posts the ante 50
pasfacile: posts the ante 50
simplyred10: posts small blind 400
pasfacile: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to astrodg  
jera75: folds
fne12001: raises 4023 to 4823 and is all-in
steam728: folds
PctureMeRlln: folds
astrodg: ????
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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:58 pm GMT by Geno
Tricky one with large blinds and fast levels but calling all-in with 88 is uglier than raising all-in with it that is for sure. Maybe take a stab as it's a turbo, otherwise probably not.
Posted Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:28 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Whats your read on villian? If he is a maniac then I might make a call here. If he is tight...then throw those 8s away. Your looking at a monster.
Your M is still high enough to survive a little longer. You have to ask yourself do you want to go out on the bubble in a coinflip situation or perhaps wait and go out in a better position. I could find reasons to and not to make the call. To me it would be very read dependant.
Posted Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:56 pm GMT by Skribbles
| UrAteUp wrote: |
Your M is still high enough to survive a little longer. |
 M=3
Posted Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:36 pm GMT by Hurricane Ham
I'm calling with a lot less than eights in this situation.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:13 am GMT by jeffonline
I would apply my “push and go technique”, what I do is push it in and go for a walk, it works for me sometimes. I think that’s what he has done. Normally I like to be the one pushing.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:52 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| Hurricane Ham wrote: | | I'm calling with a lot less than eights in this situation. |
Damn right.
This call is so easy it's unbelievable. You're desperate, and he probably is too. His range probably includes any pair, any Ace, and overcards, all of which you should be happy to face. If he has a bigger pair so be it. Your chance of winning this tournament isn't very good anyway, so you had better take some chances.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:44 am GMT by efram
shorty vs shorty, M is 3.
Dream call with 8s in this position.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:15 am GMT by UrAteUp
| Skribbles wrote: | | UrAteUp wrote: |
Your M is still high enough to survive a little longer. |
M=3
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Damn it...i figured it as 200 SB and 400 BB....not 400 sb and 800 bb. Oh well...i screwed it up again...
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:06 pm GMT by exit music
Thanks for the replies! It obviously sucks to lose on the bubble but I assumed that was a standard call if I wanted any hope of making it past 7th place.
Posted Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:22 am GMT by JMX360
Whenever I play in any tournament, my goal is to win, not to cash. Therefore in that situation, it'd be an easy call for me.
Posted Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:02 pm GMT by TheSalche
| JMX360 wrote: | | Whenever I play in any tournament, my goal is to win, not to cash. Therefore in that situation, it'd be an easy call for me. |
this is a good point here, if you just cash in most tournaments, your ROI may be "high" but your hourly rate sucks ... and thats what you really want to maximize in online poker
Posted Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:12 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
But by the same token, in some tournaments, cashing is MUCH better than not cashing, particularly when the minimum payout is relatively significant compared to your buy-in (this sometimes occurs when you are in a rebuy event or got in by satellite).
But the majority of the time, I agree with the "play to win by taking risks" theory, because almost all of the money is at the top of the tournament (especially the last 3 spots).
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