Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:58 am GMT by MrDarling
Tomorrow I am about to go to my first live tournament. It is also going to be the first time I ever play live.
Any tips, suggestion on what I should look for.
Its a €50+10 MTT with 60 people max.
I'll report on it tomorrow.
Thanks
Danny
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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:14 am GMT by Jauron
I'll leave the "tell" stuff alone you probably wont' find too many people who will actually be looking that hard anyways.
Practice protecting your cards tonight, if you are not used to having to look at them with people around. Be aware of how to bet (so you don't string bet) announce what you want to do and you'll be fine. Be sure everyone has folded before you much your hand if it's the winning one, nothing worse than folding only to find out someone else still had cards.
Basically all the little things online does for you, you have to do now outside shuffling.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:17 am GMT by Dave B
Dont stand out, dont talk.
Also, many places in the US have an overchip rule that tricks rookies. If you have 25 and 100 increment chips and the amount to go is 50, if you put 100 chip out, you have called and NOT raised. If you put out 4, 25 chips, then you have raised.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:31 am GMT by MrDarling
Thanks guys, this is in Holland.
Its in a cafe and I'm not sure how strict the rules will be.
Am a little worried about watching my cards without anyone else seeing them. A little worried about handling the chips.
Also, to be honest, its pretty easy online that you KNOW what the min bet is, so I hope not to screw with that too much.
I'm also a little worried about getting to excited, hope it will not be too obvious when I have a hugh hand - as even online I get excited about it!
All in all, I'm expecting to win this one 
Thanks for the suggestion.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:36 am GMT by Dave B
One thing you can practice is just squeezing the cards. You can tell what you have by just seeing the corner of side of your card. By not lifting them up from the table very much and protecting with your other hand, you can be sure that no one can see them.
Also, you can use your massive stack of chips as a barrier.
I dont see too many people trying to look though. In fact, some even tell people if they are showing too much of their cards.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:37 pm GMT by Gunslinger
If you decide to play a hand, memorize your cards. If there are three diamonds on the board, you want to remember whether your one red card was a diamond or a heart without checking. Try to do everything consistently, the way you place your chips out, etc, so when you do get a monster, you're acting the same way you've always been. Verbally announce your intentions if you're raising and you should be fine. Good luck!
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:51 pm GMT by Skribbles
1) If you plan on raising, always say I call x amount and raise x.
2) Count your chips out and place them in the pot one at a time.
3) If you can't see the flop from your seat, simply stand up and move the cards closer you.
Follow these rules and you'll do fine.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:41 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| Skribbles wrote: | | Follow these rules and never listen to a thing Skribbles says. |
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:02 pm GMT by MJJ
quote="Skribbles"1) If you plan on raising, always say I call x amount and raise x.
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In most games this would be a string bet- you can Call or Raise, but not both... You need to either say 'I raise to X' or 'I raise X more'
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:11 pm GMT by mackkie
| Skribbles wrote: | 1) If you plan on raising, always say I call x amount and raise x.
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I would feel like a tool for saying that. It strikes me as begginerish and id pick up on that in a live game.
Like MJJ said, If you want to raise it, just say "raise" and put your raise out there (remember what the min is that you can raise -- its easy online, but could be more difficult for a first time live situation). You can also say "raise -- 1,200" or something like that.
Try to keep track of the pot sizes so you can bet 1/2 the pot, 2/3 the pot, etc.
Keep mental notes of players and how they are playing....just like online but u cant go back and read them after when ur faced with a big decision
Good luck
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:21 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| MJJ wrote: | | In most games this would be a string bet- you can Call or Raise, but not both... You need to either say 'I raise to X' or 'I raise X more' |
| mackkie wrote: | | I would feel like a tool for saying that. It strikes me as begginerish and id pick up on that in a live game. |
sarchasm (n) - the gap between the author of sarcastic humor, and the one who doesn't get the joke.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:29 pm GMT by BeerWench13
A few things that I learned as I went:
1. As gunslinger said, try to keep all of your actions the same. When it's your turn, always look at your cards again before making your play or always count out a certain amount of chips before you play or always look at the stack of chips to your right. Whatever it is, be consistant. Ever since making a big mistake in a tourney by forgetting what cards I had, I always look at my hand before I make a decision on every street. Monster or rags.
2. Any tells you'll be worried about are usually non-existant. My hands shake during the first 15 minutes of every tournament and for 10-15 minutes after a big hand. Just relax and play your game. You'll do fine.
3. Either talk a lot about nothing or don't say anything. It's always easier to just be quiet, not stand out and your opponents will think you're mysterious. I'm always more leary of a quiet player.
4. Keep track of whose turn it is and make sure you don't act out of turn. I cannot tell you the number of times that I gave away my action before it was my turn when I first started playing and it cost me chips.
5. Most importantly, have fun. It's a game. Always remember that. If you're having a hard time or just not hitting, it's not as much fun, but it's better than cleaning a toilet. I always tell myself that when I'm having a bad night. Well, at least I'm not cleaning toilets. It helps me to keep a positive outlook even when I'm down in the game.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:39 pm GMT by golddog
In a cafe in Holland? Don't worry about remembering the cards you're dealt, you'll have to check anyway... 
Pretty much what everyone else (sans Skribbles) says. Play tight til you get the feel of the table, but mostly just enjoy the experience.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:28 pm GMT by Ensano
| MrDarling wrote: | | ...Also, to be honest, its pretty easy online that you KNOW what the min bet is, .... |
you should never need to know what the MIN bet is...
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:32 pm GMT by kingetje
you're from holland?
what city?
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:46 pm GMT by MasterMike
Be aware of everything you are doing but make yourself seem natural. Luckily, ive started playing poker in live games so playing both hasn't been much of an issue for me.
Remember your cards, think about what you are going to bet and do with your chips. Make sure you place bets the same way each time, unless you are trying to fool someone. Dont get the shakes, dont make sudden movements, dont mumble, remember they can see you (obviously). Basically don't do anything that you would do sitting in front of your computer.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:24 pm GMT by jimmer
The three things i would say are;
1.never look at your cards until your go. (so you can concentrate on the way the hand has been played until then.)
2.When the flop, turn and river are dealt, watch the other guys, not the your cards.
3. Every time you fold, make sure you spend this time watching the other players. (Lots of players switch off)
Good luck to ya.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:32 pm GMT by supafrey
don't shower for a week or so before any live game. slowroll whenever possible to add suspense to an otherwise slow game.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:22 pm GMT by raisebot
| Skribbles wrote: | 1) If you plan on raising, always say I call x amount and raise x.
2) Count your chips out and place them in the pot one at a time.
3) If you can't see the flop from your seat, simply stand up and move the cards closer you.
Follow these rules and you'll do fine. |
That's definitely making it into my sig.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:40 pm GMT by MrDarling
No, I live in Antwerp. But this is in Breda.
Its every wednesday. Am going first time tomorrow , might start visiting often.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:50 pm GMT by MilkyPirate
Always be overly dramatic when taking action.
For example if you are going to raise...YELL at the top of your lungs like a British nanny, "I am ergo going to embark on a splendifourous raise in the amount of chips currently in the betting sphere!"
Don't bother looking for tells if you are heads up...just stare at your opponent for five minutes then say something romantic like, "Did you fall from heaven because...um...I like poker" (that was from PlusEV).
Also when you sit down at a real table for the first time (after playing online), don't ask, "Where is the auto-fold box?"
I have used my own tips at my own home game and needless to say I pwned everybody with my uber skills.
Good luck at I hope you pwn those guys/gals.
(Oh yeah, just relax, don't get nervous and get into a groove)
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:17 pm GMT by MasterMike
Oh yea, remember the cards are still dealt FACE UP. So if i were you, be very careful that nobody is looking at them. Keep your hands on them at all times, and when you have to bet, just improvise covering up your cards. Its a bitch
To keep yourself from cheating, always look straight up when cards are being dealt, or if you bet, or if you call, or if you do anything.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:12 pm GMT by jeffonline
Most important, Don’t play out of turn., don’t touch your chips or prepare to fold your cards until its your turn to act. You may give away information.
Good Luck
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:49 pm GMT by kingetje
when youre in a pot and opponent guy starts talking to ya, dont answer. dont even look at him
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:39 pm GMT by tame_deuces
| kingetje wrote: | | when youre in a pot and opponent guy starts talking to ya, dont answer. dont even look at him |
Unless offcourse it is a pretty woman because then you just need to eye in that beauty while you have an excellent excuse to do so.
Come to think of it, I play quite poor poker against pretty women. But that is a price I can live with damnit!
I also note now that you actually wrote guy specifically in your note. So we're probably on the same level. I think.
Posted Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:26 pm GMT by MasterMike
| tame_deuces wrote: | | kingetje wrote: | | when youre in a pot and opponent guy starts talking to ya, dont answer. dont even look at him |
Unless offcourse it is a pretty woman because then you just need to eye in that beauty while you have an excellent excuse to do so. |
Or a pretty MAN.
| Quote: | Come to think of it, I play quite poor poker against pretty women. But that is a price I can live with damnit!
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that might just be borderline prositution
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:41 am GMT by BeerWench13
| tame_deuces wrote: | | Unless offcourse it is a pretty woman because then you just need to eye in that beauty while you have an excellent excuse to do so. |
Don't take this advice. Just look directly at her cleavage, not her face. Not only are you getting a nice show, but you may send her over the tilt line too. Many chicks like to show off their cleavage, but get offended when you actually look at it.
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:05 pm GMT by Jauron
| BeerWench13 wrote: | | tame_deuces wrote: | | Unless offcourse it is a pretty woman because then you just need to eye in that beauty while you have an excellent excuse to do so. |
Don't take this advice. Just look directly at her cleavage, not her face. Not only are you getting a nice show, but you may send her over the tilt line too. Many chicks like to show off their cleavage, but get offended when you actually look at it. |
You aint kiddin.
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:32 pm GMT by MrDarling
just came back..
We were about 40 players, sitting on 4 tables. I think I shook for a good hour after winning my first pot (Q's UTG, one caller to my 6XBB raise) A in the flop. I bet , he call. We check to Sd and he has 7's)
We had to deal our own cards, which was a little weird, especially with the shaking. First time I almost flipped a couple trying to throw the, all the way across the table, and even forgot to turn one dead card once.
played pretty solid for the first 2 hours. Was the table leader (only played 5-6 hands)
Once I've seen the cards of the player to my right. It looked like he had T's, so I told him I've seen his cards and folded. Didn't feel right playing in a pot where I've seen his cards. Flop of course had a 6 in it. The turn had a T, but turn out he only had TQ...
Another time didn't complete from the SB with T6o - flop was 664 (two diamonds) turn completed the flush but the river was a annoying T. One played had a K high flush..
After 2 hours they broke our table, and it was down to 2 tables.
My first hands in the new table, in the CO - folded to me and I look at a sad looking A6o - I min raise. BB calls.
Flop his AJK rainbow. He c/r and I call.
Turn is a brick, he check and I bet again (figuring he might have a draw, a K or he was just testing me) he c/r again.
I think a little, and the guy next to me says AI (about 4k pot, we both have about 10k left) and for some reason I say yes.
The guy think for a long time, and I'm feeling well, if he thinks so long, I have him beat. Turn out he is a much better player then me and consider the few hands that can beat him. He calls and turn over AQ.
I feel such a fish for that play. Should have probably folded the first c/r or at least try to a cheap SD.
TBH, never for a sec I tried to think which hands he might play like that. Its really not like me to go bust on TPWK on such a draw heavy board. Guess the adrenaline and every thing got the better of me.
Any way, I was online poker addict to date, now I'm a live poker addict.
I love MTT's.
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:21 pm GMT by tame_deuces
| BeerWench13 wrote: | | tame_deuces wrote: | | Unless offcourse it is a pretty woman because then you just need to eye in that beauty while you have an excellent excuse to do so. |
Don't take this advice. Just look directly at her cleavage, not her face. Not only are you getting a nice show, but you may send her over the tilt line too. Many chicks like to show off their cleavage, but get offended when you actually look at it. |
Oh, and nice read MrDarling. But this cleavage thing got me sidetracked. 
Posted Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:22 am GMT by BeerWench13
Well done, MrD, and good read. Sounds like you had a good time. Live tournament play, IMO, is so much more exciting and rewarding than online play. Let us know how you do in the next one.
Posted Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:32 pm GMT by wavenoob
I know how you feel about dealing your on cards. My very first tourney i was deal for the first hand and was nervous as i could be. I dealt the hole cards a round of bets went off and instead of turning over the flop i started to deal 5 card stud. I didnt hand a card out before someone caught me and i delt the flop correctly. Way to nervous only took 14 min to bust
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