Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:19 am GMT by mackkie
I guess the 8,000 re-raise didnt scare him too much, i guess he thought his K9 was good.
By his actions it seems like he is on a busted flush draw on the river, i thought i was good here.
Full Tilt Poker Game #1794258189: $16,000 Guarantee (12899032), Table 2 - 800/1600 Ante 200 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:08:05 ET - 2007/02/14
Seat 1: nm_21 (33,550)
Seat 2: Scuba_Scuba (44,156)
Seat 3: Gor30 (42,770)
Seat 4: corona79 (43,150)
Seat 5: bigbadcubbie (173,076)
Seat 6: ss209 (22,692)
Seat 7: kavicarter (34,520)
Seat 8: DimSum868 (47,086)
nm_21 antes 200
Scuba_Scuba antes 200
Gor30 antes 200
corona79 antes 200
bigbadcubbie antes 200
ss209 antes 200
kavicarter antes 200
DimSum868 antes 200
Gor30 posts the small blind of 800
corona79 posts the big blind of 1,600
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Gor30  
bigbadcubbie folds
ss209 folds
kavicarter folds
DimSum868 folds
nm_21 folds
Scuba_Scuba raises to 3,200
Gor30 raises to 8,000
corona79 folds
Scuba_Scuba calls 4,800
*** FLOP ***   
patrickbaitman (Observer): scuba is a moron
Gor30 checks
patrickbaitman (Observer): he has a str8
Scuba_Scuba bets 4,800
Gor30 calls 4,800
*** TURN *** 
Gor30 bets 9,500
Scuba_Scuba calls 9,500
*** RIVER *** 
Gor30 bets 20,270, and is all in
Scuba_Scuba calls 20,270
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Gor30 shows (two pair, Tens and Eights)
Scuba_Scuba shows   (a straight, Jack high)
Scuba_Scuba wins the pot (88,340) with a straight, Jack high
Gor30 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 88,340 | Rake 0
Board:
Seat 1: nm_21 folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Scuba_Scuba (button) showed and won (88,340) with a straight, Jack high
Seat 3: Gor30 (small blind) showed and lost with two pair, Tens and Eights
Seat 4: corona79 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: bigbadcubbie folded before the Flop
Seat 6: ss209 folded before the Flop
Seat 7: kavicarter folded before the Flop
Seat 8: DimSum868 folded before the Flop
Too bad, won $577, but 2 more spots and it moved up to $1k with top getting 5.5k.
Prob should have gotten myself outta the way after the flop, but what do the tourney experts here say about this hand with 8 left at the FT.
Maybe put in for a 13,000-15,000 re-raise PF and take it down right there?
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Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:25 am GMT by MrDarling
guess you guys had some history, as I don't understand the reraise with AT, nor his call and nor your flop... If you think he's making a move, raise the flop. You can't call it.
I would probably fold this PF TBH...but I'm not a MTT expert.
Still, congrats on cashing
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:23 am GMT by mackkie
I personally saw it as a weak steal attempt with blinds and antes being so high and i was 99% sure i had a better hand PF. I just cant understand what would make him call with K9o on a re-raise.
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:06 am GMT by Skribbles
He has getting 3.5~:1 with position. I make that call every time.
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:18 am GMT by mackkie
Good point, i dont think the PF action is where i should be concentrating anyway, it was played pretty horribly on the flop, turn and river.
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:26 am GMT by Skribbles
| mackkie wrote: | | Good point, i dont think the PF action is where i should be concentrating anyway, it was played pretty horribly on the flop, turn and river. |
Why did you not lead?
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:20 pm GMT by mackkie
Not sure...If I lead for 1/2 the pot for like 9.5k I prob would have taken it down.
I guess I was hoping that he missed the flop too and would check it...not gonna happen too often.
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:36 pm GMT by TheSalche
This hand does look pretty bad. If you're gonna re-raise as a bluff make the raise more substantial since you're OOP, here that basically means putting 1/3 of your stack in.
Then you check/called the flop with a gutshot after 3betting preflop ... what the hell was that? You either lead that flop, check/raise or check/fold.
You've got a nice stack of ~25 BBs, I see no reason to make this play with a mediocre hand like ATo. If you made a move like this, its a lot better with a monster hand or some low suited connected cards.
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:25 pm GMT by Skribbles
| TheSalche wrote: |
You've got a nice stack of ~25 BBs, I see no reason to make this play with a mediocre hand like ATo. If you made a move like this, its a lot better with a monster hand or some low suited connected cards. |
Pre-flop? Nothing wrong with re-raising here. The amount of hands the button could be min-raising with includes many that AT is ahead of or dominates.
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:23 pm GMT by TheSalche
Yeah, but AT is dominated by the hands that call a good sized raise. Of course here the problem is the size of the raise.
Dunno ... think you gotta be careful with steals etc, especially at final table, when waiting a little bit can make you a lot of $$$.
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