I'm looking for more info on Gus Hansen or Daniel Negreanu |
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Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:45 am GMT by jimmer
I'm struggling to find more info on gus or daniel.
I usually play a really tight game and realise I need to mix it up a bit more. I'm looking to research these guys as a realise there're really lose. If you can suggest anyother names aswell that would be great.
I would like to get into their heads a bit more.
Does any of them keep a blog or hand histories? Or do they even have a question and answers page?
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Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:54 am GMT by shorn7
Daniel has a blog and also writes a column in CardPlayer where he reviews specific tournamnets and hands he has played. Not sure about Gus.
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:05 am GMT by Dave B
IMO you are getting into dangerous territory.
What Daniel does is take calculated risks in DEEP stacked tournaments hoping to flop big and get paid off big. In most online, casino, or home game tournaments, you simply cannot play this style successfully. He also NEVER raises preflop. I read his blogs and recall that only twice before the final table at the last WPT at Bellagio did he raise preflop. Both times w/ aces and both times he was reraising after limping.
What Gus (from that I have seen and deduced without reading a lick about him) does is more game theory. He takes calculated risks, sometimes really BIG risks, but he knows that he might have a 30-40% chance to win, but if he does, the outcome will result in a large payoff. If you can take a 30% outcome and win 80-90% of the time, that 30% risk can become profitable in the long run. I have heard that Gus is frequently broke, but I did see him playing Doyle, Barry G, Johnny Chan and a couple others at Bellagio. He must have at least a 250k to sit down at that game.
There is a time an place for loose play, and often I am accused of being loose. However, it isnt a matter of just splashing around and hope to get lucky.
Posted Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:39 pm GMT by MilkyPirate
Yeah I agree with Dave B with regards to the play of DN and GH.
If you wanna learn how to mix up your play more then I recommend reading articles, books, magazines, etc...just because a pro happens to play "looser" it doesn't follow that you can learn how to play looser or mix up your game by watching them.
The best way to get better at mixing up your game is going to lower limits and experiment by playing a lot more hands (looser). You get experience in getting yourself into a lot of different situations by playing a lot more hands. HOWEVER, note that play at lower limits is already loose to begin with and you will be facing a lot of crappy players playing crapfully (if you choose to try this...I did...except not at lower limits lol...but I did get a lot of experience from it).
As for "getting into their heads", learning the thought processes that players go through while analyzing a hand takes a while to learn, but this comes with experience and learning. The best way to get better at this (like I said before) is just to read poker material on the subject then taking it step by step in a real game until it just comes naturally to you.
Look, just develop your own game based on your experiences at poker because experience is the best way to get better.
Posted Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:55 pm GMT by General Sal
Yeah, man... Daniel and Gus are also playing against some good poker players. You're gonna be playing against the donktastic donkeys at your local casino. Their style might not work against your opponents.
You can check out danny's site... fullcontactpoker
Posted Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:32 am GMT by jimmer
Thanks for your replies guys.
I have passing interest in poker and sporting psychology. Therefore I'm not only interested in 'how' they play, but also 'why' they play the way they do.
I'm not just refering to poker pro's, but most sporting pro's aswell, when i say there are issues more than the money and winning that motivate these guys. I find it fascinating that ten top pro's can all view any hand, or compilation of hands differently, depending on their position within the game and general state of mind.
Why are some players consistantly "in the zone", while others drift in and out.
Most blogs still wouldn't go into that depth, but i thought it might be a start.
Thanks
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