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Hand vs. Snoog



Posted Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:35 pm GMT by TheSalche
Snoog and I managed to play at the same 50NL table where I managed to double up, then lose a big pot to a rivered flush (allin on turn with trip aces w/ better kicker), then donked up and AJ hand against the same guy.

Anywho then this hand came up, I'd say I've floating snoog a decent amount, and he's running 39/21/2 over 160 hands.

Seat 1: TheSalche ($61.05)
Seat 2: Dpolaris ($100.90)
Seat 3: Cactus Boy ($53.25)
Seat 4: tomrash420 ($48)
Seat 5: GQdean ($24.25)
Seat 6: Snoogins47 ($113.60)
tomrash420 posts the small blind of $0.25
GQdean posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to TheSalche Four of ClubsFour of Spades
Snoogins47 raises to $2
TheSalche calls $2
Dpolaris folds
Cactus Boy folds
tomrash420 folds
GQdean folds
*** FLOP *** Five of ClubsTen of SpadesTen of Clubs
Snoogins47 bets $4
TheSalche calls $4
*** TURN *** Five of ClubsTen of SpadesTen of Clubs Three of Diamonds
Snoogins47 checks
TheSalche bets $7


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Posted Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:41 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Looks standard. Snoogs never has a hand anyway. Wink


Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:41 am GMT by snoogins47
Did I check-raise?


Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:20 am GMT by TheSalche
snoogins47 wrote:
Did I check-raise?


shhh



Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:43 am GMT by Phil14312
Looks good. you are probably ahead of his range right now.


Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:50 am GMT by groton
Yah Snoo probaly has ah ether J9 C or Ac 5x


Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:42 am GMT by snoogins47
You're supposed to mark this hand down as "Hand against LAGtard" and then give my stats and talk about some hand where I re-raised with 92o and runner-runnered a straight or something.

And my question about check raising was an honest one, because I can't recall this hand 100%... which makes it interesting for me too. Trying to figure out what my range is there, how I will play, how you should respond is a goot exercise. I wonder what I had?



Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:14 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
prolly had T7o


Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:06 am GMT by tame_deuces
We all know Snoo is a nit at heart, so this is good.

I'd prolly bump some more so a potential bluff C/R would be much more dangerous for him (in case you had a hand I mean), now he can make it potsized very easy and you'll be the one left with an uncomfortable pot size to get involved in, without his C/R necessarily conveying strength.



Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:31 pm GMT by Phil14312
Does anyone like checking behind here so as not to get c/r bluffed on the turn, inducing a bluff and calling a bet on the river? If we're ahead, he probably has 6 outs, maybe a gutshot as well. If we are behind we have 2. I dunno just thinking.


Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:31 pm GMT by supafrey
looks fine.

If I was hero, I'd probably bet 8 or 9, get raised to 22 by snoo, to which I push over the top and he'd fold.



Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:36 pm GMT by TheSalche
Snoog -

Obviously you weren't being a LAGtard, but you were certainly cbetting pretty much 100% of the time. And looking back on it, my turn bet was pretty weak, should bet $9 - $10 ... of course I usually don't have the stomach for pushing with an underpair, so thats one spot where supa and I would differ.

Your range on the flop is huge, I saw you raising with connectors in MP a few times, etc, but whenever the money got all in you were ahead most of the time, which is why the c/r was scary.



Posted Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:58 pm GMT by snoogins47
That was my thought when I first looked Phil: what about checking behind the turn? If you do, you're gonna probably have to bite the bullet and call on a lot of shitty river cards, and truth be told while I'm definitely bluffing the river some of the time, it's not quite as often as you might think: on that board, call/check-behind is screaming for a showdown. Seems really unlikely Salchey takes that line without either 1pair+ or clubs.

Check-raising these boards is fun though. What's even more fun, is after I raise UTG, and the board is 5TT3, a gutshot is considered a likely enough holding to be mentioned.






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