Heads up Hand....What they got? |
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Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:38 pm GMT by Ciso_B
Okay, This was a home game sng we did earlier. Me and Guy (tutored student of mine) were heads up.
Hero 1- $10k
Hero 2- $6.5k
Blinds $100/$200
Hero 2 limps from sb , Hero 1 checks.
Flop K  6  6  . Hero 1 checks , hero 2 bets $400 and Hero 1 calls.
Turn 4  .....Hero 1 checks Hero 2 leads for $600 and Hero 1 calls.
River 2 ....Hero 1 leads for $1,100 , Hero 2 re riases $2,000 and Hero 1 immedietally moves all in. Hero 2 thinks for a bit then folds.
What are your thoughts on the two players and there possible hands?
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Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:52 pm GMT by exit music
My guess is that hero 2 has a King.
Hero 1 could have basically anything from a bluff to a 6 to a straight to a slowplayed pair of aces
Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:10 pm GMT by kingetje
3-5 for hero 2,.....
6-4 for hero 1
Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:22 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Hehe, not so easy to guess cards when you haven't played with any of them. :D
But for fun, if this was against a pokerbuddy I have played alot against, then I can't see hero 2 re-raising the river with a king, calling would make much more sense, and a 6 would never fold so typically hero 2 is on a bluff.
And neither does shoving with a king make much sense so hero 1 would prolly be on a bluff or have a 6.
Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:43 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Hero 1 has 66. Hero 2 has KK and made the best laydown EVAR!
Seriously though... a little bit hard to tell. I imagine Hero 1 has a 6, and Hero 2 either has a weak King and thinks Hero 1 has to have him beat, or he's been bluffing heavily the entire time.
Or, they could both be full of crap, but that's hardly the norm, even heads up.
Posted Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:51 pm GMT by Ciso_B
I should really have put..."what are they representing?"
Anyway, may aswell tell - Hero 1 had 10 8 and hero 2 had Q J . Hero 1 had put hero 2 on nothing the entire time hence the calling , but felt had he re riased on flop hero 2 might smell something and re re raise  . So Hero 1 waited a few streets before making his move, also feeling this kinda represents more strength then betting out or re raising on flop.
I was hero 1 obviously, but while he was dwelling, I said to him " I think you played this hand really well" ....and he did, cos he sensed I was doing something played accordingly, I knew he couldnt call, but asked him to show so we could see how well we both played the hand.
Considering the action post flop, I felt both players  played the hand pretty well.
Posted Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:11 am GMT by tame_deuces
Yay! I'm so good. Did I win something?
nh, btw
Posted Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:30 pm GMT by Felting
i only read the post and none of the replies so i could guess even if results are posted.
Hero 1 has a 6
Hero 2 has a K
Posted Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:01 pm GMT by tame_deuces
On another note, I think hero2 botched the river here. Hero2 should plan in advance for if he is calling a shove or not, if he is not calling a shove he should shove himself at this point or fold, raising is not good there imho, even if the idea behind it is sound enough.
Note that I mean this is a result of the stacksize vs. potsize + the fact that he is playing Ciso, and this is NOT in any way a generalized statement for how you should play rivers in situations like these. There will be many times where shoving a river situation like this will be absolutely horrible pending on opponent, potsizes and stacksizes.
Maybe I'm biased because I see the hands, but I have plenty experience playing people who 3 barrel or more HU, and if I get a chance to cap the betting with a 'last shove' with a bluffbet which is reasonably sized (not a huge overbet) I'm usually either doing that or folding.
Posted Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:16 am GMT by MrDarling
I agree that hero 2 re raise was too small. If he represent a 6 that pretend to think you represent a K he should push or make a bigger bet. If you did have a K you would call a push (considering the stack sizes) So pushing is a good fake value bet it this situation.
min raising will not accomplish much , unless he had a real hand. (btw, how could he raise to $2000 if you bet $1100?)
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