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a hand from Dutch poker forum



Posted Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:08 pm GMT by kingetje
this is a hand i saw posted up on a dutch poker forum i read here and there. i thought it was an interesting one.

i think he should call
my reasoning: villain would have raised the flop with a set/two pair. if not he would have folded the turn with a set/two pair. so a boat is highly unlikely

the only thing that beats ya then is a straight flush... and its pay off time if he has that


i also hated the check on the river.


i put the villain on something like KsQ /KsJ/ maybe KsT. thinks hero would not check the river with a boat or the As, thinks his second nut flush is best and pushes. bad fold IMO.


what yall think?



PokerStars Game #8512440809: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/02/18 - 23:20:30 (ET)
Table 'Praxidike V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: 20 Buck Spin ($841.70 in chips)
Seat 2: cleatl ($251.55 in chips)
Seat 3: gkn1 ($360.75 in chips)
Seat 4: rossii-1 ($453.80 in chips)
Seat 5: HERO ($447.45 in chips)
Seat 6: ZaiGezunt ($412.40 in chips)
cleatl: posts small blind $2
gkn1: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO (A-Spades)(5-Spades)
rossii-1: folds
HERO: raises $12 to $16
ZaiGezunt: calls $16
20 Buck Spin: calls $16
cleatl: folds
gkn1: folds
*** FLOP *** (4-Spades)(J-Spades)(Q-Spades)
HERO: bets $40
ZaiGezunt: calls $40
20 Buck Spin: folds
*** TURN *** (4-Spades)(J-Spades)(Q-Spades) (10-Spades)
HERO: bets $114
ZaiGezunt: calls $114
*** RIVER *** (4-Spades)(J-Spades)(Q-Spades)(10-Spades) (J-Diamonds)
HERO: checks
ZaiGezunt: bets $242.40 and is all-in


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Posted Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:36 pm GMT by Ensano
I haven't seen many tricky players that would be willing to slowplay a set or 2 pair on a board like this...

the river bet could be made with a lot of hands that we beat... the villian could have been chasing a K- high flush... and thinking we had say 2 pair or TPTK and didn't want to let a draw for cheap...

I'd say call and prob 70/30 we're ahead... but I play low limit... I don't know how different it is from .50/1



Posted Wed Feb 21, 2007 2:45 pm GMT by shorn7
Smells like an attempted steal or a lower flush. Insta call from me...


Posted Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:33 pm GMT by TheSalche
i doubt its a set of js or qs since the villain didnt re-pop it preflop, i think check/calling a push is a great play by the hero here since it lets him catch bluffs easier.


Posted Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:50 pm GMT by Jauron
Yeah I call it, and I like the check at the end.


Posted Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:06 pm GMT by Ensano
Jauron wrote:
Yeah I call it, and I like the check at the end.


yeah... i've been thinking about applying this strategy more to my game...

instead of value betting the river with my monster ( or any hand i'm willing to call a raise with for that matter)... check it instead... (this is assuming and averagely aggressive villian).. get in a c/r... this would also help getting a cheap SD if needed...






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