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a couple trouble hands from today...



Posted Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:18 pm GMT by Ensano
suggestions coments are welcomed...

Hand #1 villian was a rock with a SD % of 23

POKERSTARS GAME #8775311552: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/03/06 - 21:22:24 (ET)
Table 'Valda V' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Mooshta ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: stukuzz ($170 in chips)
Seat 5: Ensano ($157.70 in chips)
Seat 6: SHANI ($94.50 in chips)
Seat 7: ALUCNEATBABY ($66.75 in chips)
Seat 8: DaddyFatStax ($101.70 in chips)
Seat 9: Buckyfuller ($96.75 in chips)
Ensano: posts small blind $0.50
SHANI: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ensano King of ClubsKing of Spades
ALUCNEATBABY: calls $1
DaddyFatStax: calls $1
Buckyfuller: folds
Mooshta: folds
stukuzz: raises $2 to $3
3 Pair of 3s joins the table at seat #3
Ensano: raises $12 to $15
SHANI: folds
ALUCNEATBABY: folds
markbeth joins the table at seat #2
DaddyFatStax: calls $14
stukuzz: calls $12
*** FLOP *** Six of DiamondsAce of ClubsThree of Diamonds
Ensano: bets $30
DaddyFatStax: calls $30
stukuzz: folds
*** TURN *** Six of DiamondsAce of ClubsThree of Diamonds Seven of Clubs
Ensano: checks
DaddyFatStax: bets $56.70 and is all-in
Ensano: ?


Hand #2 villian was your standard ABC player... by the turn I felt I was behind... but figured I'd only have to be ahead 20% of the time... not to mention it was a button raise...

POKERSTARS GAME #8775874522: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/03/06 - 21:55:19 (ET)
Table 'Valda V' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Mooshta ($98 in chips)
Seat 2: sabongero ($22 in chips)
Seat 3: 3 Pair of 3s ($70 in chips)
Seat 4: stukuzz ($96.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Ensano ($186.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Schwallie4 ($149.15 in chips)
Seat 7: ALUCNEATBABY ($81.90 in chips)
Seat 8: DaddyFatStax ($158.10 in chips)
Seat 9: BigAl316 ($71 in chips)
stukuzz: posts small blind $0.50
Ensano: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ensano King of DiamondsQueen of Hearts
Schwallie4: folds
ALUCNEATBABY: folds
DaddyFatStax: folds
BigAl316: folds
Mooshta: folds
sabongero: folds
3 Pair of 3s: raises $3 to $4
stukuzz: calls $3.50
Ensano: calls $3
*** FLOP *** Eight of ClubsSix of ClubsKing of Spades
stukuzz: checks
Ensano: bets $8
3 Pair of 3s: raises $8 to $16
stukuzz: folds
stukuzz said, "call"
Ensano: calls $8
*** TURN *** Eight of ClubsSix of ClubsKing of Spades Nine of Diamonds
Ensano: checks
3 Pair of 3s: bets $12
Ensano: calls $12
*** RIVER *** Eight of ClubsSix of ClubsKing of SpadesNine of Diamonds Queen of Clubs
Ensano: checks
3 Pair of 3s: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ensano: shows King of DiamondsQueen of Hearts (two pair, Kings and Queens)
3 Pair of 3s: shows King of HeartsAce of Hearts (a pair of Kings)
Ensano collected $65 from pot
3 Pair of 3s said, "unreal"
Ensano said, "thought so"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $68 | Rake $3
Board Eight of ClubsSix of ClubsKing of SpadesNine of DiamondsQueen of Clubs
Seat 1: Mooshta folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: sabongero folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 3 Pair of 3s (button) showed King of HeartsAce of Hearts and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: stukuzz (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Ensano (big blind) showed King of DiamondsQueen of Hearts and won ($65) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 6: Schwallie4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ALUCNEATBABY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DaddyFatStax folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: BigAl316 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Hand #3 villian was very wild and aggressive... often raising with 7 high just to push people off pots... would win prob every other pot by betting...
85/30/1.2/SD%50... I felt if I hit I could take a big chunk of his stack...

POKERSTARS GAME #8775413030: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/03/06 - 21:28:27 (ET)
Table 'Valda V' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Mooshta ($98 in chips)
Seat 2: markbeth ($69.15 in chips)
Seat 3: 3 Pair of 3s ($62.25 in chips)
Seat 4: stukuzz ($159.45 in chips)
Seat 5: Ensano ($111.70 in chips)
Seat 6: SHANI ($93 in chips)
Seat 7: ALUCNEATBABY ($60.75 in chips)
markbeth: posts small blind $0.50
3 Pair of 3s: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ensano Ace of SpadesSeven of Spades
stukuzz: calls $1
Ensano: calls $1
SHANI: folds
ALUCNEATBABY: folds
Mooshta: folds
markbeth: calls $0.50
3 Pair of 3s: checks
*** FLOP *** Five of SpadesJack of DiamondsTen of Spades
markbeth: bets $2
3 Pair of 3s: folds
stukuzz: raises $6 to $8
Ensano: calls $8
markbeth: calls $6
*** TURN *** Five of SpadesJack of DiamondsTen of Spades Queen of Hearts
markbeth: checks
stukuzz: bets $4
Ensano: calls $4
markbeth: calls $4
*** RIVER *** Five of SpadesJack of DiamondsTen of SpadesQueen of Hearts King of Clubs
markbeth: bets $10
stukuzz: calls $10
Ensano: raises $50 to $60
markbeth: folds
stukuzz: calls $50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ensano: shows Ace of SpadesSeven of Spades (a straight, Ten to Ace)
stukuzz: mucks hand
Ensano collected $167 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $170 | Rake $3
Board Five of SpadesJack of DiamondsTen of SpadesQueen of HeartsKing of Clubs
Seat 1: Mooshta (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: markbeth (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: 3 Pair of 3s (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: stukuzz mucked Nine of DiamondsThree of Spades
Seat 5: Ensano showed Ace of SpadesSeven of Spades and won ($167) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 6: SHANI folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ALUCNEATBABY folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Hand #4 Had to bet the river right? no other way to win...

POKERSTARS GAME #8774837625: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/03/06 - 20:54:05 (ET)
Table 'Valda V' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: HT-Max ($20 in chips)
Seat 3: TSS347 ($116.30 in chips)
Seat 4: stukuzz ($111.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Ensano ($123.05 in chips)
Seat 6: SHANI ($91 in chips)
Seat 7: ALUCNEATBABY ($66.05 in chips)
Seat 8: DaddyFatStax ($79.55 in chips)
Seat 9: Buckyfuller ($103.75 in chips)
Buckyfuller: posts small blind $0.50
HT-Max: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ensano Eight of ClubsSix of Clubs
TSS347: folds
HT-Max said, "didnt even watch ^^"
stukuzz: calls $1
Ensano: calls $1
SHANI: calls $1
ALUCNEATBABY: folds
TSS347 said, "gotcha"
DaddyFatStax: folds
Buckyfuller: calls $0.50
HT-Max: checks
*** FLOP *** Queen of ClubsThree of SpadesNine of Clubs
Buckyfuller: checks
HT-Max said, "hehe"
HT-Max: checks
stukuzz: bets $3
Ensano: calls $3
SHANI: folds
Buckyfuller: folds
HT-Max: folds
*** TURN *** Queen of ClubsThree of SpadesNine of Clubs Two of Spades
stukuzz: checks
Ensano: bets $6.50
stukuzz: calls $6.50
*** RIVER *** Queen of ClubsThree of SpadesNine of ClubsTwo of Spades Ten of Spades
stukuzz: checks
Ensano: bets $7
stukuzz: calls $7
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ensano: shows Eight of ClubsSix of Clubs (high card Queen)
stukuzz: shows Queen of SpadesJack of Hearts (a pair of Queens)
stukuzz collected $36.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $38 | Rake $1.80
Board Queen of ClubsThree of SpadesNine of ClubsTwo of SpadesTen of Spades
Seat 2: HT-Max (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: TSS347 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: stukuzz showed Queen of SpadesJack of Hearts and won ($36.20) with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: Ensano showed Eight of ClubsSix of Clubs and lost with high card Queen
Seat 6: SHANI folded on the Flop
Seat 7: ALUCNEATBABY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DaddyFatStax (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Buckyfuller (small blind) folded on the Flop


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Posted Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:34 pm GMT by Ryan_j37
Hand 1: Yep you probably have to give up this turn. Maybe save yourself a bit by only betting $20 on the flop.

Hand 2: Why not bet the river?

Hand 3: Played fine are far as i can see. River bet worked well for you.

Hand 4: I probably fold this in MP. I also think about taking the free card on the turn (bad move?)As played river bet really does nothing for you. $7 into a $22 pot? He calls you with any Q here surely.

Im new to this whole "giving feedback" thing so take my opinions with a grain of salt.



Posted Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:39 am GMT by jeffonline
1. You played this hand well in my opinion you gave yourself every chance of taking it down showing strength and getting a lot of information fed back, as difficult as it is to play from an early position against an equally good hand/player. But it looks like its time to fold, he has either hit trips on the flop with PP 66 or 33 and or the Axd a lot of hands against us.

2. KQ a difficult hand to play and considering the flush and stra8 draws, TPGK against a fierce opponent who has position over you and who was representing some sort of a hand. I only have on question would you have folded the river if he bet.

3. Axs If you can get in cheaply, a hand you like to see a flop with, because of its nut flush potential, flop call could have gone either way but the flush potential is always with us, easy decisions after the turn as you always had great pot odds.

4. Consider folding pre flop, this is not like hand 3 we never have nut flush potential and never had pot odds in our favour at any time on any street. If I had made it to the turn I certainly would not tried to pick up the pace because he checked, show this one down as cheaply as possible or get out.



Posted Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:06 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
hand 4:
like they say fold pre
but since u do play it, check on river

he bets flop and u just call, on turn he checks to u and u decide to bet the 2s on turn which is unlikely to help u in any way,
there is little u beat on river specially since he bet into 4 people on flop which usually means he has somekind of a hand, and he called your turn bet

perhaps a larger bet on river would work but would have to know more about the villian






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