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flopped top set and..



Posted Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:12 pm GMT by freakballer12
Should the re-raise signal something for me? Am I Just going to go broke on this hand?
I'm SethEclipse

PokerStars Game #8822006429: Tournament #44881903, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/03/09 - 20:02:32 (ET)
Table '44881903 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: biggib2 (1375 in chips)
Seat 2: WhiskySam (1555 in chips)
Seat 3: Fxxkin_River (1595 in chips)
Seat 4: SethEclipse (1195 in chips)
Seat 5: CoxaBranca (1545 in chips)
Seat 6: puff_1002 (3090 in chips)
Seat 8: imnedly (1700 in chips)
Seat 9: JoeJH (1445 in chips)
puff_1002: posts small blind 15
imnedly: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SethEclipse Ten of HeartsTen of Spades
JoeJH: raises 30 to 60
biggib2: folds
WhiskySam: folds
Fxxkin_River: folds
SethEclipse: calls 60
CoxaBranca: folds
puff_1002: calls 45
imnedly: folds
*** FLOP *** Eight of HeartsTen of DiamondsSix of Clubs
puff_1002: checks
JoeJH: bets 90
SethEclipse: calls 90
puff_1002: folds
*** TURN *** Eight of HeartsTen of DiamondsSix of Clubs Jack of Spades
JoeJH: bets 60
SethEclipse: raises 180 to 240
JoeJH: raises 270 to 510
SethEclipse: raises 535 to 1045 and is all-in
JoeJH: calls 535
*** RIVER *** Eight of HeartsTen of DiamondsSix of ClubsJack of Spades Two of Hearts
*** SHOW DOWN ***
JoeJH: shows Jack of HeartsJack of Diamonds (three of a kind, Jacks)
SethEclipse: shows Ten of HeartsTen of Spades (three of a kind, Tens)
JoeJH collected 2480 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2480 | Rake 0
Board Eight of HeartsTen of DiamondsSix of ClubsJack of SpadesTwo of Hearts
Seat 1: biggib2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: WhiskySam folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Fxxkin_River folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SethEclipse showed Ten of HeartsTen of Spades and lost with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 5: CoxaBranca (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: puff_1002 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: imnedly (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: JoeJH showed Jack of HeartsJack of Diamonds and won (2480) with three of a kind, Jacks


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Posted Sat Mar 10, 2007 1:55 am GMT by MrDarling
set over set it is usually correct to go broke every time , unless you have some great reads.

I might have played this hand differently, but since in this level there is no way someone is going to fold J's - I'd go broke.



Posted Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:23 am GMT by exit music
Depending on how you played it, if this was a cash game you might not have gone broke. But every other situation you aren't gonna be able to get away from it.


Posted Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:29 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
exit music wrote:
Depending on how you played it, if this was a cash game you might not have gone broke. But every other situation you aren't gonna be able to get away from it.

I probably would have gone broke even with a 100 BB stack. Just not enough hands that beat me for me to lay down.



Posted Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:50 am GMT by shorn7
You should ALWAYS go broke with your hand unless the stacks are EXTREMELY deep, like $5k in a 5/10 NL game. Also in a tournament, since you are never that deep, you have no choice. I like what Harrington says in volume 2:

"When I hear some player give some elaborate story on how they folded middle or bottom set because they just knew their opponent had top set, silently I think to myself: Idiot. When you flop a set, you are supposed to lose a lot of $$ and if you bust out of the tourny in a set over set confrontation, then it just wasn't your tournament."



Posted Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:57 pm GMT by mortaleclipse
I have laid down bottem set once. After 2 raises back to me I knew he had 10's when I had a set of 6's. Sir was kind enough to show me as well. Other then that I have lost loads of money when those situations come up.


Posted Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:30 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
going broke or not, i think u misplayed your hand on flop
since flop has straight possibilities u can't slow play it
just put na nice reraise there



Posted Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:21 pm GMT by freakballer12
Jernej Zorec wrote:
going broke or not, i think u misplayed your hand on flop
since flop has straight possibilities u can't slow play it
just put na nice reraise there

I just wasn't sure how to play that exactly. Either way I was going broke, I highly doubt that guy would have folded J's to a board like that.



Posted Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:43 pm GMT by MrDarling
freakballer12 wrote:

I just wasn't sure how to play that exactly. Either way I was going broke, I highly doubt that guy would have folded J's to a board like that.


True, but that's being result oriented With T's in a tournament I will probably reraise that min raise Preflop and then consider folding to a push. That will have saved you actually.

Once you hit your set, you want to bet more to make it expensive to people who are drawing.






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