Posted Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:08 am GMT by Metaknight42
heres a hand i played in a tourney on ultimatebet not too long ago did i do the right thing?
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Hand #41137532-7 at Sun955pm5000UP-090 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 01/Apr/07 22:05:25
NIAL8R is at seat 0 with 4725.
ljlp is at seat 1 with 1875.
Balisong is at seat 2 with 1475.
BaronVonFlush is at seat 3 with 1005.
redmad5 is at seat 4 with 1560.
kenny420 is at seat 5 with 1500.
Indysteve_ak is at seat 6 with 6310.
K12LT is at seat 8 with 1375.
metaknight42 is at seat 9 with 1485.
The button is at seat 2.
BaronVonFlush posts the small blind of 5.
redmad5 posts the big blind of 10.
NIAL8R: -- --
ljlp: -- --
Balisong: -- --
BaronVonFlush: -- --
redmad5: -- --
kenny420: -- --
Indysteve_ak: -- --
K12LT: -- --
metaknight42: 9h Jh
Pre-flop:
kenny420 folds. Indysteve_ak calls. K12LT calls.
metaknight42 calls. NIAL8R calls. ljlp folds.
Balisong folds. BaronVonFlush calls. redmad5 raises
to 70. Indysteve_ak calls. K12LT calls.
metaknight42 calls. NIAL8R calls. BaronVonFlush
calls.
Flop (board: Qc 5d Th):
BaronVonFlush checks. redmad5 checks. Indysteve_ak
checks. K12LT goes all-in for 1305. metaknight42
calls. NIAL8R calls. BaronVonFlush goes all-in for
935. redmad5 folds. Indysteve_ak folds.
Turn (board: Qc 5d Th 2h):
metaknight42 checks. NIAL8R checks.
River (board: Qc 5d Th 2h 3h):
metaknight42 goes all-in for 110. NIAL8R calls.
Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:
NIAL8R shows Ts Ks.
BaronVonFlush shows Qd 9c.
K12LT shows 5c 5s.
metaknight42 shows 9h Jh.
Showdown:
NIAL8R has Ts Ks Qc 5d Th: a pair of tens.
BaronVonFlush has Qd 9c Qc 5d Th: a pair of queens.
K12LT has 5c 5s Qc 5d Th: three fives.
metaknight42 has 9h Jh Th 2h 3h: flush, jack high.
Hand #41137532-7 Summary:
No rake is taken for this hand.
metaknight42 wins the main pot 4160 with flush, jack high.
metaknight42 wins side pot #1 1110 with flush, jack high.
metaknight42 wins side pot #2 220 with flush, jack high.
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Posted Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:11 pm GMT by MrDarling
No, you didn't.
The pot was 350 on the flop. And though the flop was as good as you could hope for with those card, you didn't have odds to call.
You have 8 outs to get your draw, but only 4 of them are to the nuts (a K will give an AJ a higher str) you can add 1.5 more outs to your back draw flush.
So you have 9.5 outs. roughly 36% chances to make your hand.
you had to call 1300 to to make 1650. if you were last to call after 4 people go all in , you technically have the odds to call, as you then will need to call 1300 to make 5500. But I'm not sure I am willing to put my tournament life on the line with 36% equity.
All in all, you got real lucky.
This seems like it was a freeroll , as I can't see 5 people go allin with those hand in any tournament that cost money. If it wasn't a freeroll, I'm coming over to ultimatbet right now.
Welcome to the forum, and good luck.
Posted Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:16 pm GMT by Metaknight42
Your absolutely right it was a freeroll.Have any tips of calculating odds at the table?
Posted Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:17 pm GMT by Muck
Sorry to say this mate but I think you played this really badly. Poker is about making decisions that will be profitable in the long run, regardless of what happens this time.
Winning a pot =/= Well played hand
Preflop.
Don’t call with 9Jsuited and certainly don’t call a raise with it. Most of the time when you hit your Jack you’ll lose to someone with AJ-QJ. When you hit you’re flush you’re even more likely to run into some with Ax suited who’ll totally bust you.
Flop
Again don’t call a massive overbet with nothing but an outside straight draw. You’ll only hit it about 1 in 4 times, the other 3 you’ll lose. If I was you I’d do some reading into pot odds.
Turn & River
You remaining chips have no fold equity with the pot so large so they’re only worth putting in if you hit or the other guy bets.
Posted Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:21 pm GMT by Metaknight42
| Muck wrote: | Sorry to say this mate but I think you played this really badly. Poker is about making decisions that will be profitable in the long run, regardless of what happens this time.
Winning a pot =/= Well played hand
Preflop.
Don’t call with 9Jsuited and certainly don’t call a raise with it. Most of the time when you hit your Jack you’ll lose to someone with AJ-QJ. When you hit you’re flush you’re even more likely to run into some with Ax suited who’ll totally bust you.
Flop
Again don’t call a massive overbet with nothing but an outside straight draw. You’ll only hit it about 1 in 4 times, the other 3 you’ll lose. If I was you I’d do some reading into pot odds.
Turn & River
You remaining chips have no fold equity with the pot so large so they’re only worth putting in if you hit or the other guy bets. |
I've about pot odds but ultimatebet moves kind of fast for me to calculate them.Is there a quick way to do it at the table?
Posted Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:40 pm GMT by Muck
If you want to go into major poker concepts like odds I’d invest in a good book.
“Harrington on Hold’em” is very well regarded one for tourney players.
Posted Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:49 pm GMT by Muck
| Metaknight42 wrote: | | I've about pot odds but ultimatebet moves kind of fast for me to calculate them.Is there a quick way to do it at the table? |
Don’t bother working out all of you’re out cards, stick to the following on the flop:
-Outside straight 8 in 47 about 1 in 6
-Inside straight 4 in 47 about 1 in 12
-Four Flush 9 in 47 about 1 in 5
These are conservative % and don’t consider The River (implied odds make things even more complicated so avoid them for now).
Also please remember that the hands above need to hold up.
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