Posted Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:32 pm GMT by kingetje
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
Date Movie 10474618-277853 Holdem No Limit $1/$2
Apr 9 11:24 pm:21 : Hand Start.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:21 : Seat 1 : donkey@@@ has $252.92
Apr 9 11:24 pm:21 : Seat 2 : horrid1 has $26
Apr 9 11:24 pm:21 : Seat 3 : locky22 has $301
Apr 9 11:24 pm:21 : Seat 4 : OWAMC has $189.50
Apr 9 11:24 pm:21 : Seat 6 : Condor72 has $422
Apr 9 11:24 pm:21 : Seat 7 : jirf_acca has $229
Apr 9 11:24 pm:21 : Seat 8 : RiverWizard has $40
Apr 9 11:24 pm:21 : Seat 9 : kingetje has $284.25
Apr 9 11:24 pm:21 : jirf_acca is the dealer.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:21 : RiverWizard will be allowed to play after the button.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:22 : kingetje posted small blind.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:22 : donkey@@@ posted big blind.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:22 : Game 277853 started with 7 players.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:22 : Dealing Hole Cards.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:22 : Seat 9 : kingetje has Ks Kc
Apr 9 11:24 pm:28 : horrid1 called $2
Apr 9 11:24 pm:29 : locky22 folded.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:30 : OWAMC folded.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:33 : Condor72 called $2 and raised $8
Apr 9 11:24 pm:36 : jirf_acca folded.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:38 : kingetje called $9
Apr 9 11:24 pm:38 : donkey@@@ folded.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:41 : horrid1 folded.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:41 : Dealing flop.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:41 : Board cards   
Apr 9 11:24 pm:44 : kingetje checked.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:47 : Condor72 bet $16
Apr 9 11:24 pm:51 : kingetje called $16 and raised $24
Apr 9 11:24 pm:57 : Condor72 called $24
Apr 9 11:24 pm:57 : Dealing turn.
Apr 9 11:24 pm:57 : Board cards 
Apr 9 11:25 pm:01 : kingetje checked.
Apr 9 11:25 pm:09 : Condor72 checked.
Apr 9 11:25 pm:10 : Dealing river.
Apr 9 11:25 pm:10 : Board cards 
Apr 9 11:25 pm:16 : kingetje bet $58
Apr 9 11:25 pm:27 : Condor72 called $58 and raised $314 and is All-in
Apr 9 11:25 pm:40 : donkey@@@ : wow
Apr 9 11:25 pm:42 : It's your turn.
Apr 9 11:25 pm:42 : kingetje has 10 seconds to respond.
Apr 9 11:25 pm:52 : kingetje did not respond and is folded
Apr 9 11:25 pm:53 : Condor72 wins $217 as the last player standing
Apr 9 11:25 pm:56 : Hand is over.
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Posted Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:15 pm GMT by jeffonline
This time I think you out tricked yourself.
Posted Mon Apr 09, 2007 9:28 pm GMT by kingetje
what do you mean?
are you saying he doesnt hav me beat?
Posted Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:06 pm GMT by exit music
Ugh call/check-raise/check/bet-fold
line of champions
Posted Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:50 pm GMT by exit music
BTW you are almost certainly beat, the only hand he bet-calls with is a FD, he'd prob bet-reraise with a set and he doesn't have a king obv. and he wouldn't re-rai with anything else on the river
Clearly a flush
edit: he could be bluffing
Posted Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:11 pm GMT by Ensano
I see KQ being played like this... but I still doubt it...
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:34 am GMT by Eusebio
What hand would he be raising with preflop, and calling your reraise?
Could he have Aces here and trying to steal the pot on the River after kingetje showed weakness on the turn?
AK is a possibility too... The only way I see him having a flush is A  Q or A J
I think he is trying, to pick up the pot... but you have to have the cojones to pay the All-In...
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:47 am GMT by jeffonline
It’s hard to play any hand out of position and I don’t know if I would have played it any better however; you gave him a free look at the river card. You may have done this for two reasons, keep him in the hand or check-raise the turn, If it was to keep him in the hand then you showed no consideration for the potential flush that you folded to. Your check-raise on the flop worked against you if you intended to do it again on the turn; If villain had not made his hand he suspected you would come over the top so he checked. The potential flush card on the river and your bet did not bother him, why, because he made the nut flush on the river or because of your play confused him so much he convinced himself you were bluffing. I think you were beat.
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:42 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
I don't really mind the smooth call up front. No clue why you checked that turn, but good fold on the river. 90+% of the time you are crushed.
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:30 am GMT by kingetje
indeed i checked the turn planning to check-raise... didnt work out.
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:51 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| kingetje wrote: | | indeed i checked the turn planning to check-raise... didnt work out. |
But you already check-raised the flop. The whole point of that was to build the pot so you could get a big bet in on the turn... VERY few players, especially with his range of hands, are going to bet when checked to on that turn. Sorry mate, but I really hate checking the turn after check-raising the flop.
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:54 pm GMT by kingetje
you are totally right. hence the topic title 
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:20 pm GMT by supafrey
Turn check is absolutely useless.
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