Playing AK OOP against a reraise |
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Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:49 pm GMT by MrDarling
With no reads, how do you play AK against a reraise in small levels.
Half players will only reraise with A's or K's while the other half will reraise with Axo and KQo - so what is the best move.
Call and c/f UI? and what if you do hit. Is it ok to go broke with TPTK against A's or K's in low levels.
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Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:00 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Well, first you better be able to tell the difference between the folks who 3-bet only AA/KK and those who 3-bet with garbage.
OOP, if you miss the flop, most of the time I would say there is nothing wrong with check/folding.
OK to go broke vs. AA/KK? Really depends on the action. Say you have AK, and the flop comes K-high after you reraise. You check, he bets the pot, and you call. The turn is a blank, you check again, and he bets the pot again--unless this guy is a maniac, how can your hand possibly be good? With 3 betting rounds after the flop, you should have ample time to decide whether one pair is good.
A lot of time, I will lead the flop if I hit it, usually planning to ditch if I get raised, especially when the flop comes K-high instead of A-high. With an A-high flop, it might be better to go for a check-raise and proceed cautiously if called.
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:03 pm GMT by exit music
| MrDarling wrote: | With no reads, how do you play AK against a reraise in small levels.
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Preflop, it's easy... lets say this happens when you are playing some .05c/.10c
You raise to .50c and get re-raised to $1.50 by LP - even if there is a cold-caller - go all-in.
You're out of position, so making an intermediate raise is dumb because you'll be pot comitted anyways, so just push b/c there are many donkeys at those levels who will call with AQs or AJs.
If you wanna play passive, go ahead and smooth call PF. Fold if you miss the flop, try to get all-in if you hit the flop. You'll give more bad-beats if you are all-in PF because you get to see all 5 cards, so theoretically, you'll win a lot more if you just push PF, you are bound to be in a more profitable situation. Plus winning a 8ptBB pot isn't terrible if everyone folds because you are OOP.
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:21 pm GMT by supafrey
FWIW, readers should beware that none of this advice applies to 200nl or above.
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:13 pm GMT by jeffonline
| supafrey wrote: | | FWIW, readers should beware that none of this advice applies to 200nl or above. |
Enlighten us, in 200nl or above, when facing a re-raise out of position with AK. What would you do?
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:44 pm GMT by exit music
| jeffonline wrote: | | supafrey wrote: | | FWIW, readers should beware that none of this advice applies to 200nl or above. |
Enlighten us, in 200nl or above, when facing a re-raise out of position with AK. What would you do? |
Do the exact opposite, obv.
open fold
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:55 pm GMT by Jernej Zorec
u obv do not autopush AK preflop at nl200 or above to a reraise
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:59 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| Jernej Zorec wrote: | | u obv do not autopush AK preflop at nl200 or above to a reraise |
I wouldn't even try that at 50NL.
Posted Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:10 pm GMT by exit music
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | | Jernej Zorec wrote: | | u obv do not autopush AK preflop at nl200 or above to a reraise |
I wouldn't even try that at 50NL. |
It depends almost completely on your opponent. Anywhere past NL10 you aren't going to have too many people calling a push with Ax so you lose the value from donkeys calling wtih 30% equity.
I still like the re-re-rai against aggressive opponents who will re-rai from LP with a wide range - that trick works at any limit.
Posted Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:55 am GMT by supafrey
As players 3-bet lighter and lighter, "seeing 5 cards" with AK becomes more and more important. You see plenty of 4 or 5 bet pushes with AK preflop in medium stakes (400+). Some people aren't as "creative" at 200 and below, so you don't see it as often, but playing with me for a half hour tends to loosen almost anyone up.
There are plenty of points in my HU matches where 4-bet pushing with AQ becomes really awesome.
With my level of aggression, preflop calling and c/folding flops with unimproved AK is really, really bad.
At 1k and above you will see a HELL of a lot of preflop pushes with AK.
I think with this next "wave" of players, you're going to see a lot more value attached to AK in general. Nobody wants to play OOP with it (does anyone even know how to play OOP anymore?), it's rarely drawing dead (except against micro-nits that only 3bet AA/KK/QQ), and a lot of ppl totally undervalue TT/JJ to the pushes. It has value.
Posted Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:27 pm GMT by Jernej Zorec
well when playing HU i dont mind pushing AK specially at my measly wannabe stakes
altho even higher up i wouldnt mind pushing it except if my opp was a total nit
Posted Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:29 pm GMT by exit music
Supa makes a strategy post   
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