Posted Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:36 am GMT by MrDarling
We all love sets. Sets are the big money makers in poker.
However, how often do you actually stack someone with a set?
Last night session I got the abnormal amount of sets, but I only got paid once.
So, all you PT users, check your stats and tell me how often you get paid for your set.
Is it worth playing small pairs for a raise just for the out side of hitting our set and then the off chance that someone actually have enough of a hand to pay us off.
So , what kind of a raise is it ok to call with a small pair?
Thanks
Danny
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Posted Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:53 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
How big a raise you can call depends on 3 factors:
1. How much money you have.
2. How much money the raiser has.
3. How likely your opponent is to fall into a post flop trap.
Also, if the pot is multiway, that's better, because it makes it more likely that someone will get a piece of the flop in a bloated pot.
There really is no magic formula, because the exact estimations of implied odds only exist in math land.
Posted Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:04 am GMT by tame_deuces
AFAIK, the big money makers in hold'em are AA,KK,QQ,JJ,TT and AK.
My $0.02.
Posted Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:36 pm GMT by MrDarling
Well today someone got stacked when I had a set....
Got loads of hands in the last 2 orbits and raised reraised lots, so its harder to put villain on a hand.
Needless to say, I hated the turn min raise, but figured I got 10 outs.
$10 to anyone who guesses villain hand :
Full Tilt Poker Game #2225567595: Table Udine (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:27:00 ET - 2007/04/16
Seat 1: NySteakExchange ($28), is sitting out
Seat 2: Nezumi-Kozo ($4.30)
Seat 3: kiloali ($10)
Seat 4: pacman_4ever ($25)
Seat 5: gman4626 ($32.70)
Seat 6: Hero ($40.85)
Nezumi-Kozo posts the small blind of $0.10
kiloali posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero  
pacman_4ever has 15 seconds left to act
pacman_4ever folds
gman4626 calls $0.25
Hero raises to $1.10
Nezumi-Kozo folds
kiloali folds
gman4626 calls $0.85
*** FLOP ***   
gman4626 checks
Hero bets $2.15
gman4626 calls $2.15
*** TURN *** 
gman4626 checks
Hero bets $6.25
gman4626 raises to $12.50
Hero calls $6.25
*** RIVER *** 
gman4626 bets $16.95, and is all in
Hero calls $16.95
Posted Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:10 pm GMT by sixsixtie
Yeah its frustrating when you hit sets and don't get paid out! It seems like you play all day trying to flop a set and when you finally do it just hurts when everyone folds.
Posted Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:33 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Since you're offering $10 for a correct guess, methinks it probably was not the A  x or JT.
A naked 6? Don't tell me it was an overpair...
Posted Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:44 pm GMT by MrDarling
today I got 3 or 4 set. 1 got paid by a short stack that though his pocket 4's were any good (flop was K56 Turn 6 and I had 5's) so I stacked him (only $10 but still cool)
Before I flopped a set of K's but couldn't get a 1/3 of pot out if the guy..
And then the above hand...
Posted Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:28 pm GMT by jeffonline
My last 5 sessions I have been monitoring closely my PP, all I have been recording is how many time I flop a set, this is not an indication of how many time I win hands but just simply how many time I flop a set with PP. So far I have recorded 38 PP and have flopped a set 3 times.
My win rate is a lot higher than this but I don’t have PT so I can’t give you the statistics.
If its an unraised pot you rarely get paid the amount to justify putting out 9 BB. So you have to be prepared to call a pre-flop raise to justify playing small PP.
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: | How big a raise you can call depends on 3 factors:
1. How much money you have.
2. How much money the raiser has.
3. How likely your opponent is to fall into a post flop trap.
Also, if the pot is multiway, that's better, because it makes it more likely that someone will get a piece of the flop in a bloated pot.
There really is no magic formula, because the exact estimations of implied odds only exist in math land. |
I like to call pre-flop raises with no more than 5% of my stack
The Villain and or the pre-flop raiser has got to have an equivalent stack size to pay me off and can’t be a tight passive player.
I find position irrelevant, if I hit I want to bet into the pre-flop raiser.
If I miss I normally fold to any raise.
Posted Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:44 am GMT by MrDarling
This is going to turn to hands where my set bust someone.
in this case 2 people. And the fish who called and chased is open ended draw I wanted to bust for the entire session.
I love it when a plan come together.
Full Tilt Poker Game #2228446581: Table Spear (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 7:37:28 ET - 2007/04/17
Seat 1: jeffy2121 ($5.70)
Seat 2: hero ($42.80)
Seat 3: msupk ($40.50)
Seat 4: kangxi ($26.30)
Seat 5: dgmoy ($20.20)
Seat 6: Bomuld ($4.50)
Bomuld posts the small blind of $0.10
jeffy2121 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero  
hero raises to $1
msupk folds
kangxi folds
dgmoy calls $1
Bomuld raises to $4.50, and is all in
jeffy2121 folds
hero calls $3.50
dgmoy calls $3.50
*** FLOP ***  
hero bets $9.20
dgmoy calls $9.20
*** TURN *** 
hero bets $7
dgmoy calls $6.50, and is all in
hero shows
dgmoy shows  
Bomuld shows  
Uncalled bet of $0.50 returned to hero
*** RIVER ***
hero shows a full house, Sevens full of Nines
dgmoy shows a pair of Nines
hero wins the side pot ($29.80) with a full house, Sevens full of Nines
Bomuld shows a pair of Nines
hero wins the main pot ($13.10) with a full house, Sevens full of Nines
Posted Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:29 pm GMT by khaosanroad
I've been getting paid off on my sets a lot lately.
I've been practicing table selection religiously now, and it's paying off big time.
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