top pair on the flo... good time to go all in? |
|
Posted Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:21 am GMT by LegoPoker
seems to me like the might have been on a flush draw trying to get a cheap river.... leak?
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players
SB: $97.75
BB: $333.77
UTG: $106.64
Hero (MP): $114.85
CO: $72.60
BTN: $100
Preflop: Hero is dealt Q T (6 Players)
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $5, CO calls $5, BTN folds, SB calls $4.50, 2 folds
Flop: ($17) 5 Q 4 (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $13, CO raises to $26, SB folds, Hero raises to $76, CO calls all-in for $41.60
Uncalled bet of $8.40 returned to Hero
Turn: ($152.20) 7 (2 Players - 1 All-In)
River: ($152.20) 4 (2 Players - 1 All-In)
Pot Size: $152.20
CO had Q A (two pairs, Queens and Fours)
Hero had Q T (two pairs, Queens and Fours)
Did you know that participating in a poker forum can help you improve your own game? Be it by sharing experiences or simply asking for help, participation in a forum helps you focus and keep 'on topic' which will help you improve your game. You can learn from other players feedback and from their experiences. Why the THP poker forums? We offer one of the best managed texas holdem poker forums available, and the community within is far more friendly than those typicaly found on other sites. We've made a 'lurkers edition' of the poker forum available here on Holdem Poker Online, but we encourage all visitors to register and join in on the conversations on TexasHoldem-Poker.com
Posted Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:50 am GMT by Dave B
Q10 is a playable hand, but not generally good enough to raise 5x the BB with.
Also, anyone CALLING a raise of 5x the big blind who then pops you on that flop has you beat. You will lose money over time trying to call a player on a bluff. Your only hope was that he has JJ 10s 9s or a big draw and was raising for a free card or seeing where you are at.
Knowing that, why go all in? If he flopped 2nd pair, he wont call an all in. He either has an overpair, big draw or KQ AQ maybe QJ at a lose table. Your only hope is that he is drawing, in that case, if he has an overcard you are flipping a coin for your stack.
Posted Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:45 am GMT by MrDarling
Don't show results next time.
1st - fold preflop. QT is a marginal hand. If you raise its a semi bluff to punish the limper. But your OOP against everyone else.
Flop - you got raised on the flop. All you have is Top pair with an ok kicker. There are 3 Q's that beat you, all of them might call a raise. The one you beat will probably wont. He could also have a set.
Without reads I strongly consider folding, but I probably call and fold to the turn bet UI.
Posted Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:11 pm GMT by Yozman
i dont like this play at all sorry, but u learn from ur mistakes sometimes expensive ones haha. qt is a trash hand, not a raising hand as u are crushed by aq kq qj as u found out. the golden rule of poker is dont go broke with just 1 pair, this is very good rule unless u r playing a maniac or u hav a good read.
Posted Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:45 pm GMT by UrAteUp
| Yozman wrote: | | qt is a trash hand, not a raising hand as u are crushed by aq kq qj as u found out. |
I disagree with part of this statement. Q10 can be a good hand to raise with or play but only if you have good position. Late position with no big raises before me then I might raise with Q10 here. From EP...fold preflop and save yourself lots of money.
| Quote: | | the golden rule of poker is dont go broke with just 1 pair |
Most times I have to agree with this rule. Unless it is HU or very short table.
Posted Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:46 pm GMT by Muck
| MrDarling wrote: | | Don't show results next time. |
Indeed now everyone going to think I put him on AQ because it's the result 
Seriously though even 6 handed I don't like QTo from UTG+1
Also, the pre-flop raise did buy you some information. Unless you're at a very loose table the calls suggest that if you do hit you're Q or T on the flop and encounter resistence you'll likely be behind.
Granted the CO was lucky he didn't run into 55 or 44 which you could of had, but maybe he just had a good read on you.
|
|
