Posted Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:38 pm GMT by witt10s
PokerStars Game #9528109055: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/04/21 - 00:25:53 (ET)
Table 'Diomedes' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: maxthibo ($8.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Boenergies ($29.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Constrained ($7.55 in chips)
Seat 4: ImStoned24/7 ($31.05 in chips)
Seat 5: DaSwam ($93.10 in chips)
Seat 6: 13mclean ($49.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Suckoutslim ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 8: Bust NU 42 ($94.45 in chips)
Seat 9: thiaspiral ($32.55 in chips)
13mclean: posts small blind $0.25
Suckoutslim: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to 13mclean  
Bust NU 42: raises $0.50 to $1
thiaspiral: calls $1
maxthibo: folds
Boenergies: calls $1
Constrained: folds
ImStoned24/7: calls $1
DaSwam: folds
13mclean: raises $5 to $6
Suckoutslim: folds
Bust NU 42: calls $5
thiaspiral: calls $5
Boenergies: calls $5
ImStoned24/7: calls $5
*** FLOP ***   
13mclean: ?
pot is like $30 or so.
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Posted Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:41 am GMT by MrDarling
I hate the fact that you got 4 callers and you are OOP. If the table always call raises like that I'll raise even more from the SB.
Now, I stab this pot. Its an expensive stab, and problem his, anyone with a pocket pair will think he is good and call or raise you. There is a small chance a Q is out there as well.
Since this is WA/WB maybe take a c/c attitude. There are no draws. A Q will make it cheaper or even slow play. So you can get a cheap SD.
Posted Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:51 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
With such a big pot, this will be very hard to get away from. Even so, it's not like you can just leave your children out there. We'll probably have to put some money in there, but the question is how.
Now, the nice thing about this flop is that if you DO have the best hand, it's likely to stay that way. If no one has a Queen (or 77), it is very likely you will win this pot (anyone with a pocket pair has only 2 outs, and all other hands have almost none).
With so little information and so many callers, I propose a slightly different plan. Check. See what the other players do. If the action goes something like bet - call - raise, I'd be pretty sure you're in trouble and you can throw it away. However, if there isn't much action or it seems like players are weak, you can call or check-raise, or lead 4th street (the problem is, anyone with a Q has incentive to slowplay since the pot is already so big).
That's just an idea. Leading just seems like it could get us in trouble if we get raised. Getting raised here makes me want to vomit and could likely cost us our stack.
Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:17 pm GMT by jeffonline
This is going to be an interesting post, when the board pairs and there are no draws with 5 runners all whom have called a raise. Being first to act and the original raiser with AA, I going to make a bet of ½ the pot.
I have considered these factors:
Any one who has a Q is possibly going to check the flop and bet the turn.
Every one is thinking does any one have a Q.
If no one has a Q then the first to bet may win the pot.
Aggressive players like to represent the flop particularly if they detect any weakness.
This is a good flop and a big pot to represent the set.
I choose to lead because any information I otherwise get is only confusing.
Posted Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:17 pm GMT by Ciso_B
I'd check, tbh, i'd be more worried if everyone checked behind then if someone bet. If someone bets here I stay around, a bet and a call or bet and re raise and you can safely fold imo.
Posted Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:58 am GMT by witt10s
*** FLOP ***
13mclean: checks
Bust NU 42: checks
thiaspiral: checks
Boenergies: bets $2.50
ImStoned24/7: raises $2.50 to $5
13mclean:?
Posted Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:14 am GMT by khaosanroad
| witt10s wrote: | *** FLOP ***
13mclean: checks
Bust NU 42: checks
thiaspiral: checks
Boenergies: bets $2.50
ImStoned24/7: raises $2.50 to $5
13mclean:? |
| Ciso_B wrote: | | a bet and a call or bet and re raise and you can safely fold imo. |
Posted Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:34 pm GMT by witt10s
well folding to a bet and a raise was my intention but this bet and raise looked so weak.
I ended up folding on the flop and the two others showed down 88 and JJ... Had them crushed for what turned out to be a 150BB pot.
Anyone just call the flop and reevaluate on turn since it is so cheap?
Anyone consider reraising?
After I folded, a third Q hit the board. We are getting our stacks in here correct?
Posted Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:12 pm GMT by golddog
Bet the flop in first position, see who answers and how. Possibly check-raise once you think you see weakness.
I think the mistake on this one is not seeing where you are post-flop, letting them dictate the action.
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