good play or fish move episode 1.... |
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Posted Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:08 pm GMT by Ensano
after a bit of a poker hiatus (spelling) for about 2-3 weeks (bet no one even noticed i was gone)... i made a trip to the casino and this situation came up...
just moved to a new table and I have full buying ($200 1/2NL)so no reads
sit down in the CO and post... and dealt QJo...
EP raises 4xbb to 8$ and folds around to me... getting 2:1 and most likely heads up I call..
so does BB, meh...
flop comes 10 9 10 rainbow... pot 30$
EP bets out 20$...
now assuming average player's range this could be anything from an overpair to a cbet from overcards so I have 2 options (well 3 but with an open ender can i really be laying it down this fast)
option 1: call and chase the draw which also sets up my favorite bluff (c/c on flop raising on turn like a set would)
option 2: raise and put him to the test right then and there...
I decide to go with option 1 because I also get to see how he reacts to my call.... BB folds
turn 2o... pot 70$...
villian then bets 20$... to me this looked like a weak 2nd barrel and decided to fire back so I raised it up to 60$...
now some people would say I should've raised more but there's no flush draw and I kinda wanted it to look like i wanted a call... not to mention i'm only giving 3.75:1...
without much though he calls...
river blank... pot 150$...
villian checks....
I have 0 showdown value now so the only move is bet... how much and why?
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Posted Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:20 am GMT by Phil14312
Push. You get the most fold equity, anything less is kinda meaningless with your stack sizes, villain covers yes?
Posted Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:26 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| Phil14312 wrote: | | Push. You get the most fold equity, anything less is kinda meaningless with your stack sizes, villain covers yes? |
It's either that or just give up.
The main reason I don't like raising on the turn with this type of hand is that when you do get called and you miss, you have to go out on a huge limb to try and win the pot. To make this move, I usually need to know the person pretty well, and to have a little bit better draw than this. If you ARE going to raise the turn, I prefer raising more, because you're giving him such an attractive price. Of course, a move this sophisticated is likely to be lost on the average 1/2 NL player, hence my comments above.
In position, I frequently like raising the flop much more, because that gives us a lot more options in the later streets of the hand.
Posted Sat May 05, 2007 6:49 pm GMT by Ensano
| Phil14312 wrote: | | Push. You get the most fold equity, anything less is kinda meaningless with your stack sizes, villain covers yes? |
sorry... forgot to mention that yes he does have us covered...
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