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Full Tilt NL hand



Posted Fri May 04, 2007 10:54 pm GMT by Dave B
This is the stuff that gets me into trouble at NL.

Loosish player that will raise w/ anything (sorry, 9 handed $100NL $.50/$1) raises to $3.50 on the cutoff and I am heads up in the blind w/ K9 suited. I am up about $100 without showing down much-I call.

Flop 963 rainbow, I check to him, he checks.

Turn K, I have a lock and hope he has AK KQ, etc, he bets $6, I raise to $15, he calls immediately.

River A, I bet out $15 and he raises to $45. Now I immediately put him on AK, even A9 A6 A3 is trouble or any set. Can I really lay this down given the way it was played?


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Posted Sat May 05, 2007 12:55 am GMT by Yozman
smells alot like ak. i hete this river, i prob would of chek called the river try to get a cheap shodown. there is a chance he has aq aj and he didnt believe your turn raise n hit his ace


Posted Sat May 05, 2007 1:15 am GMT by MrDarling
I'm a much lower level player , but here are my thoughts :
Since he raise almost everything his range here is much bigger then even 2 over cards.
How does he play post. Does he often call or raise with marginal hands? What hands did you see him show down?
Why didn't he c-bet? Does he often NOT c-bet UI or did he hit big and trying to trap?
Why didn't you lead to him?

In lower level I probably call without reads.



Posted Sat May 05, 2007 3:22 am GMT by JohnnyCache
If he's that loose, would he have raised when he gave you the free card?

If he's really a loose player, he might have something like AJ or KJ or KQ

I don't know, I guess if you call him you find out for next time Smile



Posted Sun May 06, 2007 12:25 am GMT by TheSalche
I guess what bothers me about this hand is his flop check. If he's LAGish then it might mean he flopped a set, if he's loose-passive then he's more likely to have the AK.

I guess I don't see what you beat here besides a bluff. He's making such a value raise on the river it's sick. But damn it's hard to fold this one.



Posted Sun May 06, 2007 1:16 am GMT by Dave B
I called, he showed J4 for no pair.


Then this one tonight, I win a good amt again and the table breaks, so I sit down at a new one. 1st hand K3 on the post and I am heads up w/ the blind. Flop K Spade Q Spade 4 Diamond he bets pot, I smooth call.

Turn 7 Diamond , he bets pot again ($10), I raise min, he goes all in for and I have $25 more to call. $40 in the pot, top pair, weak kicker vs a short stack w/ 3 draws out there and he was the BB and getting 2:1 odds.....what to do what to do?????



Posted Mon May 07, 2007 12:52 pm GMT by Concussed
I'd fold, but i hate this type of hand, especially at the limits i play (.25/.50).
Just a top pair with weak kicker against a big raise will mean a fold from me.



Posted Mon May 07, 2007 2:46 pm GMT by AHBrownell
Don't bet this river.

You have a great bluff-catching hand.

If you bet and are raised you probably have to fold, so instead I like to use an aggressive check here. He might have you beat, and I don't think you are giving up much value by checking here... A lot of aggressive players might try to bluff on an ace, so if its a bluff you win a bet. I cannot see a hand that will call the turn raise and will reraise the river that you can beat...






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