Posted Sat May 05, 2007 7:51 pm GMT by Ensano
first lvl of a 4+40 180SNG....on stars
i have a little over starting stack... have villian covered...
in MP with QQ no hearts...
folded to me so i raise... LP calls and SB calls...
pot 340 flop A  J 4 
SB bets out min (20)... i hate when people min bet at me so i raise to 240... LP folds and SB calls...
pot 820... turn 3
SB pushes for 1050....
2 questions... first, thoughts on flop raise too big for info?... just bad all round... I already got input from 9  10 and I'm just trying to get more imput...
second... do we call...
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Posted Sat May 05, 2007 8:11 pm GMT by Ciso_B
you need to know ure opponent very well to call here. Too much guess work to call this one,since he called the re raise on the flop and all. Foldio..
Posted Sun May 06, 2007 3:20 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
probably hit 2 pair with his A-rag
but i suppose 10% of time they have air
Posted Sun May 06, 2007 4:33 am GMT by MrDarling
I doubt someone on $4 is crazy enough to call a reraise from the Pf raiser on a A high flop and then push with air.
I think its A3 more often then anything else or 3's.
I also always reraise the leading min bet, but in S&G I'll might make it smaller.
Posted Sun May 06, 2007 11:54 am GMT by supafrey
fold
Posted Sun May 06, 2007 12:10 pm GMT by exit music
There are a lot of potential hands are you beating that he might play like that - assuming he is as terrible as he looks. As far as the flop-play goes, don't sweat it - I'm too lazy to count pot size/whatever - but as long as your raise was 3/4-1x pot, that's probably alright. There are days when I would call his push, too... but if I was playing well and not trying to look like a hero - but I'd usually fold this.
Posted Mon May 07, 2007 12:32 pm GMT by Ensano
i thought his push was funny.... at this lvl a monster would want to check cause i raised twice... so me firing again on the turn would be assumed..
also I say a big ace would bet... but not that much...
a weak A would want a cheap SD.... the push looks weak and seems like he doesn't want me in the pot...
so I decided to call...
villian shows...K 9
and whifs on the river... i double up first round...
Posted Mon May 07, 2007 2:05 pm GMT by Gogie
I think the villain's push is pretty common online in these situations. I have seen many cases where not only will the villain push with a draw, but he will call an all-in on a draw as well, even though he's getting nowhere near correct odds.
Good read on your part. Of course, this thread would have been in the bad beat forum if he had hit 
P.S. - By my figuring the blinds were 10-20 and you raised to 100. I know they were "suited", but how does anyone call a 5xBB raise with K9, especially OOP and after someone else has already called? His only hope is to hit a flush - anything else and he has to figure he's way behind. Of course, at $4 + $0.40 I guess anything goes.
Posted Mon May 07, 2007 2:42 pm GMT by AHBrownell
This is the problem with reraising with QQ early on in a SNG or tournament. You end having to play for your whole stack, when you really should avoid doing so.
My basic rule with QQ is:
If I raise preflop and get more than 1 caller, if an ace hits I'll bet once - if anyone bets first or calls I'm done with my hand.
Here the guy bet 20. Not really a bet, so I'd probably raise too, but once he calls, I am done with the hand. He might have a flush draw, but he also might have a hand as poor as A2, which has you crushed. I feel sick that 1/3 of my chips are gone, but I muck it. 
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