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Posted Thu May 10, 2007 12:21 am GMT by khaosanroad
Decided to change gears today. I like the way the session went. I would like some input on this hand.
Tilt Poker Game #2391075445: Table Wengert - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Holdem - 0:23:30 ET - 2007/05/10
Seat 1: doneright1 ($37.65)
Seat 2: Liveline99 ($20.95)
Seat 3: jason full tilt ($62.85)
Seat 4: choochmeister ($48.75)
Seat 5: tardonk ($49.25)
Seat 6: Chris557 ($51.50)
Seat 7: jonnybegoode3 ($50)
Seat 8: AP0CALYP5E ($50)
Seat 9: KWP12 ($21.25)
KWP12 posts the small blind of $0.25
doneright1 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AP0CALYP5E  
Liveline99 folds
Liveline99 stands up
jason full tilt raises to $1.50
choochmeister folds
oLa sits down
oLa adds $50
tardonk adds $0.75
tardonk folds
Chris557 folds
jonnybegoode3 folds
AP0CALYP5E raises to $4.50
KWP12 folds
doneright1 folds
jason full tilt calls $3
*** FLOP ***   
jason full tilt bets $4
AP0CALYP5E ?
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Posted Thu May 10, 2007 12:24 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Minimum raise (or raise to like $10). He will think you're overplaying AA/KK almost guaranteed. The only thing you're really protecting against is a flush draw anyway.
Posted Thu May 10, 2007 1:24 am GMT by MrDarling
The real question is there any chance he raised UTG+1 with 78? that the only hand you are really afraid of now.
He probably have an over pair (8's to J's) or he picked a flush draw.
I say raise, if he goes over the top it read depended.
Posted Thu May 10, 2007 1:29 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| MrDarling wrote: | The real question is there any chance he raised UTG+1 with 78? that the only hand you are really afraid of now.
He probably have an over pair (8's to J's) or he picked a flush draw.
I say raise, if he goes over the top it read depended. |
In a heads up pot, there is almost no way I'm folding this hand almost regardless of what he does.
Posted Thu May 10, 2007 2:51 am GMT by khaosanroad
| MrDarling wrote: | The real question is there any chance he raised UTG+1 with 78? that the only hand you are really afraid of now.
He probably have an over pair (8's to J's) or he picked a flush draw.
I say raise, if he goes over the top it read depended. |
At the time I only had about 25 hands with him, but he saw 25% flops PFR% 2.9 agrro 0
Posted Thu May 10, 2007 4:14 pm GMT by khaosanroad
Tilt Poker Game #2391075445: Table Wengert - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Holdem - 0:23:30 ET - 2007/05/10
Seat 1: doneright1 ($37.65)
Seat 2: Liveline99 ($20.95)
Seat 3: jason full tilt ($62.85)
Seat 4: choochmeister ($48.75)
Seat 5: tardonk ($49.25)
Seat 6: Chris557 ($51.50)
Seat 7: jonnybegoode3 ($50)
Seat 8: AP0CALYP5E ($50)
Seat 9: KWP12 ($21.25)
KWP12 posts the small blind of $0.25
doneright1 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AP0CALYP5E
Liveline99 folds
Liveline99 stands up
jason full tilt raises to $1.50
choochmeister folds
oLa sits down
oLa adds $50
tardonk adds $0.75
tardonk folds
Chris557 folds
jonnybegoode3 folds
AP0CALYP5E raises to $4.50
KWP12 folds
doneright1 folds
jason full tilt calls $3
*** FLOP ***
jason full tilt bets $4
AP0CALYP5E raises to $8
jason full tilt calls $4
*** TURN *** 
jason full tilt checks
AP0CALYP5E ?
Posted Thu May 10, 2007 5:30 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Wow, if that wasn't the worst card in the deck...
Nevertheless, there is still a very good chance that you have the best hand here. I might check behind here just in case that screwed us, with the intent of calling a "value bet" type amount on the river, which could well be a bluff or a value bet from a weaker hand (assuming it isn't something like a 4th diamond).
On the flop, I was pretty sure we wanted to play a big pot, but that turn changes things. I probably slow down here, check behind, and hope to earn a small bet on the river.
Posted Thu May 10, 2007 5:59 pm GMT by Ensano
like DC said... worst card in the deck... check it down ... and call a reasonable bet on the river...
Posted Fri May 11, 2007 12:58 am GMT by khaosanroad
I had him on JJ-KK so I didn't really fear that card a whole lot.
Tilt Poker Game #2391075445: Table Wengert - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Holdem - 0:23:30 ET - 2007/05/10
Seat 1: doneright1 ($37.65)
Seat 2: Liveline99 ($20.95)
Seat 3: jason full tilt ($62.85)
Seat 4: choochmeister ($48.75)
Seat 5: tardonk ($49.25)
Seat 6: Chris557 ($51.50)
Seat 7: jonnybegoode3 ($50)
Seat 8: AP0CALYP5E ($50)
Seat 9: KWP12 ($21.25)
KWP12 posts the small blind of $0.25
doneright1 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AP0CALYP5E
Liveline99 folds
Liveline99 stands up
jason full tilt raises to $1.50
choochmeister folds
oLa sits down
oLa adds $50
tardonk adds $0.75
tardonk folds
Chris557 folds
jonnybegoode3 folds
AP0CALYP5E raises to $4.50
KWP12 folds
doneright1 folds
jason full tilt calls $3
*** FLOP ***
jason full tilt bets $4
AP0CALYP5E raises to $8
jason full tilt calls $4
*** TURN ***
jason full tilt checks
AP0CALYP5E bets $25.75
jason full tilt has 15 seconds left to act
jason full tilt calls $25.75
*** RIVER *** 
jason full tilt checks
AP0CALYP5E bets $11.75, and is all in
jason full tilt calls $11.75
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AP0CALYP5E shows (a straight, Seven high)
jason full tilt shows   (a flush, Nine high)
jason full tilt wins the pot ($97.75) with a flush, Nine high
AP0CALYP5E adds $50
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $100.75 | Rake $3
Board:
Seat 1: doneright1 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Liveline99 didnt bet (folded)
Seat 3: jason full tilt showed and won ($97.75) with a flush, Nine high
Seat 4: choochmeister didnt bet (folded)
Seat 5: tardonk didnt bet (folded)
Seat 6: Chris557 didnt bet (folded)
Seat 7: jonnybegoode3 didnt bet (folded)
Seat 8: AP0CALYP5E (button) showed and lost with a straight, Seven high
Seat 9: KWP12 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Posted Fri May 11, 2007 1:04 am GMT by jeffonline
Don’t you just love poker "not"
Posted Fri May 11, 2007 2:21 am GMT by MrDarling
Why did you min raise the flop?
With 2 the flush there are a lot of cards that can kill action or worse kill your hand. Put more money there now.
Turn is cool.
I think I can see a check behind on this river.
You now turned your hand into a bluff.
Posted Fri May 11, 2007 3:07 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
TERRIBLE bet on the river. Also, your turn bet looks like a "panic" bet. You may not fear that turn card, but you should, because even if doesn't immediately help your opponent, it may give him a lot more outs, and it drastically weakens your hand.
| Quote: | Why did you min raise the flop?
With 2 the flush there are a lot of cards that can kill action or worse kill your hand. Put more money there now. |
I'm not that worried about protecting against a FD or representing one in a HU pot.
The fact that your opponent made such a loose call with 99 tells me one of two things:
1. He is a calling station and you should befriend him.
2. He has no respect for your bets and you are probably bluffing too frequently.
Posted Fri May 11, 2007 3:20 am GMT by khaosanroad
Yeah river bet is bad.
I was 3 betting a lot preflop so it's possible he had no respect for my bets.
I min reraised the flop because I wanted a call.
A half pot bet on turn may have been better.
I'm trying out a much more aggressive preflop style.
My VP$P is higher than my flop percentage.
I'm about even money playing like this, so I'll keep doing it for at least 5k hands to see how it goes.
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