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do i really call 1/5 my stack hoping for a set?



Posted Sun May 13, 2007 5:20 pm GMT by Ensano
here i'm getting 3.125:1 on my money do I call here hoping to hit my set?...


PokerStars Game #9895938302: Tournament #50210191, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/05/13 - 18:04:41 (ET)
Table '50210191 7' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Lefty747 (2935 in chips)
Seat 2: chef010 (5180 in chips)
Seat 3: bf1028 (2360 in chips)
Seat 4: Casssia (660 in chips)
Seat 6: Ensano (1295 in chips)
Seat 7: capnadolny1 (720 in chips)
Seat 8: mickeymike49 (1200 in chips)
Seat 9: UNHClown (1940 in chips)
capnadolny1: posts small blind 25
mickeymike49: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ensano Four of SpadesFour of Clubs
UNHClown: raises 150 to 200
Lefty747: folds
chef010: calls 200
bf1028: calls 200
Casssia: folds
Ensano:?


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Posted Sun May 13, 2007 6:27 pm GMT by Jernej Zorec
no


Posted Mon May 14, 2007 9:16 am GMT by Ensano
PokerStars Game #9895938302: Tournament #50210191, $4.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/05/13 - 18:04:41 (ET)
Table '50210191 7' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Lefty747 (2935 in chips)
Seat 2: chef010 (5180 in chips)
Seat 3: bf1028 (2360 in chips)
Seat 4: Casssia (660 in chips)
Seat 6: Ensano (1295 in chips)
Seat 7: capnadolny1 (720 in chips)
Seat 8: mickeymike49 (1200 in chips)
Seat 9: UNHClown (1940 in chips)
capnadolny1: posts small blind 25
mickeymike49: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ensano Four of SpadesFour of Clubs
UNHClown: raises 150 to 200
Lefty747: folds
chef010: calls 200
bf1028: calls 200
Casssia: folds
Ensano: folds
capnadolny1: folds
mickeymike49: calls 150
*** FLOP *** Five of ClubsFour of DiamondsThree of Diamonds
mickeymike49: bets 50
UNHClown: raises 450 to 500
chef010: raises 450 to 950
bf1028: calls 950
mickeymike49: raises 50 to 1000 and is all-in
UNHClown: folds
chef010: calls 50
bf1028: calls 50
*** TURN *** Five of ClubsFour of DiamondsThree of Diamonds Eight of Hearts
chef010: bets 3980 and is all-in
bf1028: calls 1160 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** Five of ClubsFour of DiamondsThree of DiamondsEight of Hearts Ten of Spades
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chef010: shows Five of SpadesFive of Diamonds (three of a kind, Fives)
bf1028: shows King of DiamondsEight of Diamonds (a pair of Eights)
chef010 collected 2320 from side pot
mickeymike49: shows Ace of HeartsAce of Clubs (a pair of Aces)
chef010 collected 4325 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6645 Main pot 4325. Side pot 2320. | Rake 0
Board Five of ClubsFour of DiamondsThree of DiamondsEight of HeartsTen of Spades
Seat 1: Lefty747 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: chef010 showed Five of SpadesFive of Diamonds and won (6645) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 3: bf1028 showed King of DiamondsEight of Diamonds and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 4: Casssia folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Ensano (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: capnadolny1 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: mickeymike49 (big blind) showed Ace of HeartsAce of Clubs and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 9: UNHClown folded on the Flop (QQ)



Posted Mon May 14, 2007 11:34 am GMT by MrDarling
Don't be result oriented, but as you can see, good fold Smile

Ensano wrote:

Seat 9: UNHClown folded on the Flop (QQ)


WTF is that? That poker stars shows the hands that fold now?



Posted Mon May 14, 2007 12:09 pm GMT by Ensano
no no... that's what the guy claimed to have folded... from that action I believe it to be true...


Posted Mon May 14, 2007 2:00 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Quote:
here i'm getting 3.125:1 on my money do I call here hoping to hit my set?...

No... how could that possibly be a winning bet? It is push or fold (it is ALWAYS push or fold with 6x the blind), and considering you have very little fold equity against these players, it is a no-brainer fold.



Posted Mon May 14, 2007 2:38 pm GMT by Ensano
xDiamond_CutteRx wrote:
Quote:
here i'm getting 3.125:1 on my money do I call here hoping to hit my set?...

No... how could that possibly be a winning bet? It is push or fold (it is ALWAYS push or fold with 6x the blind), and considering you have very little fold equity against these players, it is a no-brainer fold.


6x the blind? I have 26xbb... or you mean 6x the bet?...

my though was just... if i call and hit my set... given the action and that the bigstack always commits to the pot no matter what I knew I would be able to get my whole stack in..

so i'm calling 200 to win at least 1720... that's 8.6:1.. no?



Posted Mon May 14, 2007 2:49 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
I misread the action somehow. It's a little closer than I thought, and I suppose you can call IF you think you're going to double every time you flop a set, but that might be hoping for a little much.





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