Posted Thu May 24, 2007 3:31 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
this hand came up yesterday and i have no idea on what to think, was it a bad spot ?
table was playing bit on passive side lots of limping with medium hands.
i had to call his push due to odds altho the guy probably knew i can't fold considering how he played so far, seeing his hand tho makes me wonder
VC Poker 1,500 Value Guarantee 300/600, hand converted by the iPoker Converter
saw flop|saw showdown
Button notpalc (18641)
SB Hero (14650)
BB xxxdevil88xxx (7140)
UTG kirstenI (21166)
UTG+1 slones (3350)
MP riveredagain13 (6190)
CO-1 yippo (20393)
CO hanski81 (3990)
Preflop: Hero is in the SB with K T
3 folds, yippo calls 600, 2 folds, Hero raises to 1400, xxxdevil88xxx calls 1100, yippo calls 1100.
Flop (5100) J 3 4
Hero bets 3000, xxxdevil88xxx moves all-in for 5440, 1 fold, Hero calls 2440.
Turn (15980) 8
River (15980) 7
Hero shows K T
xxxdevil88xxx shows 2 2
xxxdevil88xxx wins 15980 with One pair, Two
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Posted Thu May 24, 2007 12:27 pm GMT by Phil14312
I don't like the preflop raise, you're hand really isn't that good OOP, even against limpers. Preflop makes postflop really hard. I guess its either committ yourself on the flop or check and give up. I would probably end up taking the same line as you if I raised preflop, but I wouldn't raise preflop.
Posted Thu May 24, 2007 12:38 pm GMT by Jernej Zorec
yeah the only reason i did it was becouse play was kinda weak and didnt want to just fold, but suppose ur right on the preflop action
Posted Thu May 24, 2007 7:06 pm GMT by snoogins47
Generally I agree with the sentiment, though I might complete preflop instead of just folding. After the PFR I think I probably do the same thing, that board isn't beautiful... I have an unhealthy aversion to Jxx flops against a limper ;P It's a pretty good flop for people to miss though, and given the play preflop even if I'm not really happy about following through, I'm probably less happy giving up without a fight.
I hate short stacks cold-calling like the BB did here, since different players can have such drastically different ranges there.
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