Posted Thu May 24, 2007 6:32 pm GMT by jeffonline
I don't think I could play this any better, My flop re-raise i thought was big enough to shake of any draws. Early position raise had to be a big hand posibly AK AA KK QQ JJ TT. My turn bet was to keep him in, get some more vale and find out if he was holding JJ. I was hoping the board would pair and became edgy when the Qs hit I thought he may have chased the draw or could have had JJ or QQ so I checked after him. I was hoping fo KK AA but I was dreaming.
Can you see any room for improvement on how I played.
PokerStars Game #10079555881: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/05/24 -
08:27:40 (ET)
Table 'Delphinus' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Germanguy79 ($13.50 in chips)
Seat 2: sunhunter83 ($31.45 in chips)
Seat 3: JeffOkay ($30.70 in chips
Seat 4: Isli ($14.70 in chips)
Seat 5: arf919111 ($7.65 in chips)
Seat 6: KamuelaBoy ($14.10 in chips)
Seat 7: MeAndMy88 ($2.65 in chips)
Seat 8: patan99 ($28.15 in chips)
Seat 9: valhalla30 ($28.15 in chips)
KamuelaBoy: posts small blind $0.10
MeAndMy88: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JeffOkay  
patan99: raises $0.50 to $0.75
valhalla30: folds
Germanguy79: calls $0.75
sunhunter83: folds
JeffOkay: calls $0.75
Isli: folds
arf919111: folds
KamuelaBoy: calls $0.65
MeAndMy88: folds
*** FLOP ***   
KamuelaBoy: checks
patan99: bets $2
Germanguy79: folds
JeffOkay: raises $5.75 to $7.75
KamuelaBoy: folds
patan99: calls $5.75
*** TURN *** 
patan99: checks
JeffOkay: bets $8.25
patan99: calls $8.25
*** RIVER *** 
Germanguy79 said, "i fold 99"
patan99: checks
JeffOkay: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
patan99: shows   (three of a kind, Queens)
JeffOkay: mucks hand
patan99 collected $33.55 from pot
Germanguy79 said, "vnh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $35.25 | Rake $1.70
Board
Seat 1: Germanguy79 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: sunhunter83 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JeffOkay mucked
Seat 4: Isli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: arf919111 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: KamuelaBoy (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: MeAndMy88 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: patan99 showed and won ($33.55) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 9: valhalla30 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Posted Thu May 24, 2007 8:18 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
If you're worried about the flush draw legitimately, you need to bet significantly more on the turn, but if you were worried about it on the river, that's a good check behind.
Posted Thu May 24, 2007 9:19 pm GMT by Phil14312
I'm probably betting ~10-12 on the river. He almost never has a flush draw or a bigger set. You only lose to one hand basically...I don't see why you wouldn't value bet, this is a good hand to leave out the results.
Posted Thu May 24, 2007 9:32 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| Phil14312 wrote: | | I'm probably betting ~10-12 on the river. He almost never has a flush draw or a bigger set. You only lose to one hand basically...I don't see why you wouldn't value bet, this is a good hand to leave out the results. |
I concur. I meant to put that in as well.
Posted Fri May 25, 2007 12:20 am GMT by MrDarling
I like it. I might bet a little more on the turn simply for value.
I also like the check behind on the river. People in $25NL chase FD without odds all the time.
if you bet and he raises you are committed and have to call and it sucks.
Posted Fri May 25, 2007 1:59 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| MrDarling wrote: | I like it. I might bet a little more on the turn simply for value.
I also like the check behind on the river. |
Those two statements are contradictory. If you're concerned about value, that is not good reason to check behind on the river, and if you're worried about a flush draw, that's not a good turn bet.
And against virtually anything other than a flush (or the unlikely higher set as was actually the case), we are giving up a LOT by checking behind on the river.
Posted Fri May 25, 2007 5:44 am GMT by MrDarling
On the turn we are ahead of everything but a higher set.
so we bet for value and for pricing out draws.
on the river there are now more hands that beat us, and a flush is a great possibility.
In fact the only hands that will call our river bets that do not beat us are A's and K's. And even those might no call seeing the flush got there.
So against a decent villain there is no value betting here at all. And against a fish who might slow played his A's and will now c/r us AI we will hard problems folding our set and will have to pay the flush....
Posted Fri May 25, 2007 9:31 am GMT by gumbie
Bet more on the turn.
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