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Thoughts how to play a post-flop set



Posted Fri May 25, 2007 5:40 am GMT by Concussed
How do you play a low (under 888)-set ?
I like a check from an early position (regardless of whether its a low or relatively high set) hoping to check/raise, and raise from Late position.

But is there a thought that to check-call is just as good to disguise a hand strenght, and then pile in on a non-looking dangerous Turn card.


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Posted Fri May 25, 2007 6:22 am GMT by MrDarling
This depends on so many things :

1. The texture of the flop. Is it draw heavy or is it a dry flop. I see many players slow play a set on a draw heavy board and then complain when it get cracked.

2. Is it a raised pot.

3. Your position

4. your table image.

5. The table dynamic. Do people like to play in big pots. Do they fight for every pot. Will someone always try to steal...


Usually, I like to lead into the PF raiser. Though in 6 max it is not always the best approach since people raise PF with a lot of hands.
I almost never c/r with it , especially not on the flop. I might call flop and c/r turn if I thought no scare cards can come or I call and lead turn or....



Posted Fri May 25, 2007 8:08 am GMT by jimmer
MrDarling wrote:
This depends on so many things :

1. The texture of the flop. Is it draw heavy or is it a dry flop. I see many players slow play a set on a draw heavy board and then complain when it get cracked.

2. Is it a raised pot.

3. Your position

4. your table image.

5. The table dynamic. Do people like to play in big pots. Do they fight for every pot. Will someone always try to steal...

6. The amount of players still in the hand.
7. The size of the chip stacks of both you, and the other guys

8. optional the amount of beer you've drank!



Posted Fri May 25, 2007 2:50 pm GMT by tame_deuces
If you are in doubt, bet.

Works for all kinds of situations.



Posted Fri May 25, 2007 3:41 pm GMT by AHBrownell
I have changed my general strategy, if I'm going to bet, I nearly always bet about half the pot on any flop. Usually I bet this amount with draws, with sets, with top pair, with air, etc.

I find that if you check-raise it looks a lot scarier than a half-pot sized bet. A lot of people will view this as a continuation bet (if you were the prelop raiser) and fold, but another group of players like to liberally raise "weak bets" and you might get a raise, which you can call/raise based on the circumstances.

I rarely would ever check a set. I might if I had something like 888 on a board of 8HeartKClub2Spade or something similar. AND even here - I'd rather bet half the pot most of the time, and get a strong king to raise me.

In a poker DVD I have, Greg Raymer talks about doing what his opponent expects when he has a strong hand. If his opponents expect him to bet (regardless of his hand), he bets. If his opponents expect him to check, he checks. This thinking is good on flops where you have a well disguised hand. Lets say you raised in late position with 7Club7Heart. The flop comes 7SpadeTHeart2Heart. Having raised preflop, you are expected to bet here, so you should bet, but your opponents are likely to wonder if you hit that flop, middle-small cards (based on the range you are likley on due to your preflop raise). Its very likely that aggressive opponents will raise you here, with lots of hands. Checking might induce them to bluff, but betting gets them to bluff LARGER, so betting is usually the better tactic...






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