Great invention to online pokergame! |
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Posted Thu May 31, 2007 3:26 pm GMT by Mandraker
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Posted Thu May 31, 2007 3:45 pm GMT by Gogie
Are there any magicians out there that can make this joker disappear? 
Posted Thu May 31, 2007 4:01 pm GMT by Mandraker
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Posted Thu May 31, 2007 4:21 pm GMT by Geno
So you go to the website, click the link for part 1 of the video and it is a .exe file you download. Well that is tempting isn't it?
Buh-bye asshat
EDIT - the moderator area is broken, the ban will have to wait 
Posted Thu May 31, 2007 6:06 pm GMT by ninetensuited
Eat Shit and Die spammer
Posted Thu May 31, 2007 6:34 pm GMT by kingetje
GORE ROT DIE!!!
BUY PRODUCT!!!!
Posted Thu May 31, 2007 6:49 pm GMT by Phil14312
Wow. Does that seriously work on people?
Posted Thu May 31, 2007 7:11 pm GMT by crack
Your mum
Posted Thu May 31, 2007 11:35 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
| Phil14312 wrote: | | Wow. Does that seriously work on people? |
It worked on me, I'm down $50,000!
lol scamaments.
Posted Thu May 31, 2007 11:37 pm GMT by raisebot
Great invention for humanity!
its called a gun and using these little cylinder looking things called bullets or bollets, im not too sure
but i saw some sick video once where some guy had one of these gun things, put a few of the bullets in a special section, then stuck the long piece in his mouth, and clicked some trigger-like piece with his finger. next thing you know, there was pieces of brain and blood all over the wall. it was kinda like magic
and oh yeah, the guy shit himself too
check out the video if you get a chance (after your ass gets banned from here, I'm sure youll have plenty of time to browse youtube)
Posted Thu May 31, 2007 11:43 pm GMT by Mandraker
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Posted Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:35 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
u can not predict river cards based on formula unless u figured out what Einstein and hundreds of other schoolars still couldnt do and that is the equation of the universe
but if u have please feel free to share it without us having to download a virus file
Posted Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:30 am GMT by Geno
I fail to see what this program does anyway.
We can all predict that if we are holding two clubs and there are two out there, I'm about 20% to see another on the river. If I need one of two sixes in the deck, I'm about 4% to see that.
Exactly what does this software do that we can't do already with (at worst) the 4/2 rule or (at best) knowing the odds of every permutation on the flop and turn.........?
Posted Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:20 pm GMT by Mandraker
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Posted Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:22 pm GMT by Muck
| Mandraker wrote: |
"What I think? WOW stunning programm! how do you can predict part of the river cards? has that s.t. to do with the handhistory?
Anyway great invention to online pokergame!
What are you planning to do with it? is it only working @ PS and playmoney at the moment?
I would love to beta test it or even buy it at a full working stage... 
pls give some more informations about it."[
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Wow you couldn’t get a better testimonial than if you wrote it yourself.
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Posted Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:36 pm GMT by Muck
| Mandraker wrote: | | I didn't think it was so difficult to just downlaod a file, extract it and watch. |
You’re a spammer (Fact).
You’re trying to get people to download an exe (Fact).
You don’t think people shouldn't be suspicious (Fact).
Are you new to computers, monumentally naïve, or both?
Posted Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:43 pm GMT by K-rug
If you have a website and such a fantastic product would it not make more sense to provide a streaming video on your website? Make it easy on your potential customers and lessen the shadow of suspicion?
Surely if you can program something as wonderful as you say you have you can figure out how to compress and stream some video via your site.
Posted Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:56 am GMT by Mandraker
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Posted Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:56 am GMT by Muck
| Mandraker wrote: | | 1)No virus, only self extracting winrar archive. |
Touché your convincing argument has won the debate, I now trust you spammer.
| Mandraker wrote: | | 2)I can't host videos on my server, i have rent 100mb on a server and i can't exceed mounthly bandwidth. |
Cheap by name...
| Mandraker wrote: | | 3)I am having alot of requests, so I don't need your attention anymore. |
That's lucky because you're coincidental going to be ban soon.
| Mandraker wrote: | | 4)Hope to meet you at some holdem table very soon. |
Well I could always do with the money.
Posted Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:57 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
u can host videos on yourtube its free, and if ur program works why didnt u just sit down at a table and earn enough to buy a server where u can host videos ?
Posted Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:39 pm GMT by Mandraker
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Posted Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:57 pm GMT by finalhonor
What a piece of trash
Posted Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:18 pm GMT by K-rug
So to give him the benefit of the doubt I looked at the video... From YouTube...
What the hell kind of crap is this? Why do I feel compelled to post this? Oh well here goes.
The video is selectively edited:
So you’ve got some software that guesses at what the cards will be on the flop to “help players to win hands that usually are folded”. You won three hands total out of nine shown in the video. But how many total hands were played from start to finish? The video starts with one seat being empty already. There is no time stamp so off the bat the video seems edited.
The one thing I did find amusing was how the last hand got cut off and we never see the result. You had J4 and your software guessed a J743 would come. You hit J4 on the flop and called an all-in re-raise. We never see what the other players who called had and if you won. Wonder why?
Credibility:
On top of it you are at a PLAY MONEY table. You have 2 to 1 over most players and at least one player having only what appears to be 700 while another is loaded with over 10k. Want credibility? Gamble with your own real cash and show everything.
What you won:
You won three hands.
One hand was pocket AA. The other two hands you had Ax with pretty much a family pot. Not exactly rocket science there.
The odds of your cards:
Your software rarely if ever guessed more than one out of the three flop cards correctly. Again, we never saw the whole shebang so I’m assuming you showed us the best of the best. Which is pathetic in and of itself.
There are 13 values in a deck of cards 2-A. You don’t predict suits so that’s 1 in 6.5 chance you have to get the numeral of a card right using two guesses per card. But there are three cards on the flop. So you really have a 3 in 6.5 chance or almost 1 in 2 to guess that one of the cards on the flop will be one of your two predicted values. Again, no suits and you don’t predict anything on the turn or river. Later in the video you actually guess using four cards bahahaha with still only one being correct.
Your play and the real odds:
Here is where the bells and whistles really go off…You stayed in with J4 while four other players pre-flop raised it 8x BB, then 21x BB then called an all-in for 1570 pre-flop (157x BB) after another guy acting before you called the all-in re-raise too. WTF?!?!? Do you realize your odds to hit two pair are about 4% on the flop?! What sort of extremely ballsy or extremely stupid piece of software did you program? That’s not math or statistics… That’s just dumb luck. I have to repeat that again… you had a 4% chance to hit two pair. You called… On a PLAY MONEY table with what you could be assured would be four way action. I don’t see anyone on this site supporting that choice without using the “it’s play money” excuse.
/sarcasm
That’s a must do move if I ever saw one. Again, pretty funny that the tape ends so we never know how that ended. I’m going to bet that you lost…
Inconsistency:
Strangely enough you had 74 earlier and your software predicted you would pair up but you folded to a 14x BB raise. Even though your odds to hit two pair are still exactly the same, 4% as your J4 was... With a lot less action too boot. Where was the faith in the 74 and your software? Ha that’s right… 7 never hit. You never would have paired and you would have lost. But you odds are the same as you incredible J4 so why where they played differently?
Verdict:
It’s horse crap
Posted Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:22 pm GMT by Geno
| K-rug wrote: |
The odds of your cards:
Your software rarely if ever guessed more than one out of the three flop cards correctly. Again, we never saw the whole shebang so I’m assuming you showed us the best of the best. Which is pathetic in and of itself.
There are 13 values in a deck of cards 2-A. You don’t predict suits so that’s 1 in 6.5 chance you have to get the numeral of a card right using two guesses per card. But there are three cards on the flop. So you really have a 3 in 6.5 chance or almost 1 in 2 to guess that one of the cards on the flop will be one of your two predicted values. Again, no suits and you don’t predict anything on the turn or river. |
That is what struck me the instant I watched this crap - it's basically a coin flip to 'predict' a flop card by guessing two ranks.
I particularly liked the 160xBB raise with AA in the hole. That sort of play will definitely work at a real money table. Bravo.
I'd bet good money that J4 in the final hand got pwned by a flopped set
Soon as that damn mod control is fixed, I'm ass raping this guy.
Posted Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:02 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
I want the 8:32 of my life back that I wasted watching that.
Cards have no memory. Your "math and statistic" are based on flawed premises.
Posted Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:06 pm GMT by tame_deuces
Can we keep him if we housetrain him?
Posted Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:23 am GMT by Mandraker
Hi all gentlemen.
The video has been cut because of the 10 minutes limit at youtube. It was only a way to show that the software hits from 75% to 85%. You can also lost an hand with AA so what's the problem if i cut the last hand? The software said J4 and there were a J and a 4 on the flop. That's all. I will soon post (not here of course) other videos at real money tables, but because you all love insulting people just to feel as great men each others, i am planning a demo version that will be online in the next week. I also helped the moderators erasing all my posts.
Posted Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:56 am GMT by UrAteUp
| Mandraker wrote: | Hi all gentlemen.
The video has been cut because of the 10 minutes limit at youtube. It was only a way to show that the software hits from 75% to 85%. You can also lost an hand with AA so what's the problem if i cut the last hand? The software said J4 and there were a J and a 4 on the flop. That's all. I will soon post (not here of course) other videos at real money tables, but because you all love insulting people just to feel as great men each others, i am planning a demo version that will be online in the next week. I also helped the moderators erasing all my posts. |
Ok is this really Supa? Only Supa could play J4o and come out smelling like a rose in the end...
Dude, your not going to convince anyone here to use your software. We are what is termed poker players. We don't need software to tell us our odds in winning a hand. We have our own calculators called Brains.
Go peddle your happy wares else where...perhaps go over to the 2+2 Forum. There is another place that would welcome your posts as well as your software. I lost the link to it. I used to be a moderator there but I stopped hanging out at it. Just do a google for Texas Holdem Forums. YOu'll find it...they owners name is BillyBob.
Good luck and see you at the tables Friend!!!... 
Posted Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:51 am GMT by Jernej Zorec
u should know when u make software u need to present and explain it well
and u presented it like ur just spamming
Posted Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:47 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| Jernej Zorec wrote: | | u should know when u make software u need to present and explain it well |
True, but the real problem is it's impossible for him to explain this thing in a way that makes any sense.
At BEST, it does a binomial distribution on the ranks that have been seen so far, and then takes the "picks" from those that have been under-represented to date. You're relying on your supposition that "the cards have memory." They don't. One flop has nothing to do with the next, or the one after that, or the one after that.
I'll make the OP a deal: send me your algorithm, and if it's at all kosher, I'll endorse it myself. But if it's not, I will expose you for the absolute fraud that you are, regardless of your intentions.
You insist we're insulting you to stroke our own egos. Actually, we're insulting you because your system can't/won't/doesn't work.
Posted Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:27 pm GMT by Geno
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: | | At BEST, it does a binomial distribution on the ranks that have been seen so far |
If it were to ignore card memory and base itself purely on cards seen (eg your hole cards only) it would never, EVER say that you would make a pair because statistically, there are more of every other rank in the deck. Thus lies the flaw in 'predicting' cards
Posted Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:38 pm GMT by K-rug
| Sean_in_NJ wrote: |
You insist we're insulting you to stroke our own egos. Actually, we're insulting you because your system can't/won't/doesn't work. |
I just like to argue and have a years worth of absenteeism to make up for. Is that a valid excuse?
Posted Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:47 pm GMT by K-rug
| Mandraker wrote: | Hi all gentlemen.
The video has been cut because of the 10 minutes limit at youtube.
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Ok... Proof you are a lying scumbag... Your video was 8 minutes 32 seconds. You fail in life sir. In fact, you fail a full 1 minute 28 seconds short.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CAqQYU0308
I bet in the extra 1 minute 28 seconds left out we see what happens with your J4 five way all-in.
Don't worry. I've downloaded and saved a copy of your video in case you make any more claims and remove your video from YouTube. Yes I hate you that much.
Posted Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:33 pm GMT by arras
| K-rug wrote: |
Don't worry. I've downloaded and saved a copy of your video in case you make any more claims and remove your video from YouTube. Yes I hate you that much. |
probably a real dumb question but how do you download movies from youtube? i was trying to figure this out last night after a few too many white russians and couldn't figure it out.
Posted Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:42 pm GMT by Muck
I’d like to point out the flaws in this application but I can’t see what it’s supposed to be doing.
Posted Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:57 pm GMT by K-rug
| arras wrote: | | K-rug wrote: |
Don't worry. I've downloaded and saved a copy of your video in case you make any more claims and remove your video from YouTube. Yes I hate you that much. |
probably a real dumb question but how do you download movies from youtube? i was trying to figure this out last night after a few too many white russians and couldn't figure it out. |
Well if you use Firefox there are several extensions that provide the service. Just do a search for YouTube in the extensions area on their website and download one or two.
With some you might have to rename the file you downloaded from filename to filename.flv and use an flv player to play them.
There are also website that you can put the YouTube link in and up pops the download link. Again, most require an .flv player to view them. There are many of them and most are free to download.
There are also programs that let you convert it from .flv to .avi or other formats if you want.
Posted Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:59 pm GMT by K-rug
| Muck wrote: | | I’d like to point out the flaws in this application but I can’t see what it’s supposed to be doing. |
Pick two random numbers between 1-13. Congrats, you can now make millions on the play money tables!
Posted Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:14 pm GMT by Muck
| K-rug wrote: | | Muck wrote: | | I’d like to point out the flaws in this application but I can’t see what it’s supposed to be doing. |
Pick two random numbers between 1-13. Congrats, you can now make millions on the play money tables! |
Sounds great, add a windows GUI and spam it out!
Posted Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:40 pm GMT by Geno
Finally, the mod control panel is back. Buh-bye asshat.
Posted Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:50 am GMT by UrAteUp
| Geno wrote: | | Finally, the mod control panel is back. Buh-bye asshat. |
Damn Geno...why would you take the fun away from K-rug, Muck and Sean? You just like to be a killjoy don't you?...
Posted Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:30 pm GMT by Muck
If his avatar is staying could it be replaced with one that doesn’t mention his “software house” and by house I mean parents basement.
Posted Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:27 pm GMT by vyni
I've removed his avatar completely.
If there weren't 3 pages of posts in this topic, I would just get rid of it now.... but there are 3 pages lol. So this is notice to anyone who wants to continue bashing on the lamer or his ridiculous claims. Monday morning, it's a memory.
Posted Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:15 pm GMT by UrAteUp
Can we all send denial of service attacks to his website too Vyni and you'll take the blame?...
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