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Posted Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:55 am GMT by General Sal
FullTiltPoker Game #2644048592: Table Osborn (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 0:32:15 ET - 2007/06/12
Seat 1: GeneralSal ($70.55)
Seat 2: deb8000 ($20)
Seat 3: BeachedBum44 ($43.45)
Seat 4: stormpsych ($55.35)
Seat 5: dirtypoobutt ($59.15)
Seat 6: JV883 ($24.15)
GeneralSal has 5 seconds left to act
GeneralSal posts the small blind of $0.25
deb8000 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GeneralSal  
BeachedBum44 calls $0.50
dirtypoobutt: ur a fool
stormpsych raises to $1
dirtypoobutt folds
JV883 calls $1
GeneralSal has 15 seconds left to act
GeneralSal raises to $4
deb8000 folds
BeachedBum44 calls $3.50
stormpsych has 15 seconds left to act
stormpsych calls $3
JV883 folds
*** FLOP ***    GeneralSal bets $13.50
BeachedBum44 folds
stormpsych raises to $33.75
GeneralSal has 15 seconds left to act
GeneralSal raises to $66.50
stormpsych calls $17.60, and is all in
GeneralSal shows
stormpsych shows   Uncalled bet of $15.15 returned to GeneralSal
*** TURN *** 
*** RIVER *** 
GeneralSal shows a pair of Aces
stormpsych shows three of a kind, Nines
stormpsych wins the pot ($113.20) with three of a kind, Nines
GeneralSal adds $34.80
*** SUMMARY ***
Can you get away from pocket aces in that spot?
Oh, btw, check this hand out... only 15 minutes later against the same person...
FullTiltPoker Game #2644182915: Table Osborn (6 max) - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 0:47:11 ET - 2007/06/12
Seat 1: GeneralSal ($53.95)
Seat 2: deb8000 ($39.35)
Seat 3: BeachedBum44 ($38.85)
Seat 4: stormpsych ($120.85)
Seat 5: dirtypoobutt ($56.60)
Seat 6: JV883 ($20)
dirtypoobutt posts the small blind of $0.25
JV883 has 5 seconds left to act
JV883 posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GeneralSal   GeneralSal raises to $1.75deb8000 calls $1.75
BeachedBum44 folds
stormpsych calls $1.75
dirtypoobutt folds
JV883 folds
*** FLOP ***  
GeneralSal bets $6deb8000 has 15 seconds left to act
deb8000 folds
stormpsych raises to $12
GeneralSal has 15 seconds left to act
GeneralSal raises to $18
stormpsych calls $6*** TURN *** 
GeneralSal has 15 seconds left to act
GeneralSal bets $10.50
stormpsych calls $10.50*** RIVER *** 
GeneralSal has 15 seconds left to act
GeneralSal bets $10.50
stormpsych calls $10.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GeneralSal shows a pair of Kings
stormpsych shows   three of a kind, Sixes
stormpsych wins the pot ($81) with three of a kind, SixesGeneralSal adds $36.80
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $84 | Rake $3
Board:
Seat 1: GeneralSal showed and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: deb8000 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: BeachedBum44 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: stormpsych (button) showed and won ($81) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 5: dirtypoobutt (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: JV883 (big blind) folded before the Flop
I'm just curious what you guys thought of my play here.
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Posted Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:18 am GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Given stack sizes, I probably go broke on hand 1 also, but it depends slightly on my opponents; that's a crappy flop for Aces, but not much you can do, other than possibly raise slightly more preflop, or bet less on the flop.
Hand 2, I think you probably played it fine, too. The only thing I might object to is the minimum 3-bet on the flop. I want him to pay for a club if he's drawing.
In 100 BB games, it's usually correct to try and play a large pot with overpairs, and if someone hits a set, so be it. You can try keeping the pot smaller, but most of the time going broke isn't such a crime.
Posted Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:08 am GMT by gumbie
These are tough ones, the first one is a really ugly flop for AA and you may be able to get away from it sometimes if you stop using the bet the pot button on the flop.
Having said that, in this particular hand, (at nl50 this will happen quite often), with 3 callers the pot is so bloated preflop that any decently sized bet on the flop is basically committing you.
I generally hate the idea of making bigger raises with aa and kk pf because it is so transparent, but I have seen many ppl use it at this level with some success.
Posted Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:12 am GMT by gumbie
| xDiamond_CutteRx wrote: |
In 100 BB games, it's usually correct to try and play a large pot with overpairs, and if someone hits a set, so be it. You can try keeping the pot smaller, but most of the time going broke isn't such a crime. |
I can think of a zillion players you should insta-fold aa against when they limp-called pf and raised your flop bet........ but prolly not so many at nl50
Posted Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:15 am GMT by kingetje
story of my life these past two days
these situations suck so bad.... you bet the flop and get raised... if you dont feel like mucking your overpair instantly raising again is totally comitting so theres little you can do
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