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Posted Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:20 pm GMT by Ensano
do i reraise here or do i slow down and take the odds i'm getting to draw?
oh... villian is 26vpip/14prefold A/2.67post/wtsd$20
POKERSTARS GAME #10582604175: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/06/23 - 16:07:51 (ET)
Table 'Algoa' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Big Rounder9 ($47.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Ensano ($53.15 in chips)
Seat 3: durabauke ($7.75 in chips)
Seat 4: ChangLeeSun ($113.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Beinta Cool ($11.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Tuwei168 ($30 in chips)
Seat 7: Die Bibi ($29.15 in chips)
Seat 8: joecombs ($56.35 in chips)
Seat 9: mecbm ($82.20 in chips)
Beinta Cool: posts small blind $0.25
Tuwei168: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Ensano  
Die Bibi: calls $0.50
joecombs: folds
mecbm: folds
Big Rounder9: folds
Ensano: raises $1.50 to $2
durabauke: folds
ChangLeeSun: folds
Beinta Cool: folds
Tuwei168: folds
Die Bibi: calls $1.50
*** FLOP ***   
Die Bibi: bets $2
Ensano: raises $6 to $8
Die Bibi: calls $6
*** TURN *** 
Die Bibi: bets $4
Ensano: ?
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Posted Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:48 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Looks like he might be trying to block bet here, but I can't imagine with what. Personally, I take the cheap one here, because raising and then facing a reraise is pretty much a total disaster. Keep the pot small, IMO.
Posted Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:09 pm GMT by Ensano
*** FLOP ***
Die Bibi: bets $2
Ensano: raises $6 to $8
Die Bibi: calls $6
*** TURN ***
Die Bibi: bets $4
Ensano: calls $4
*** RIVER *** 
Die Bibi: bets $5
Ensano: ?
Posted Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:51 pm GMT by Moon_Child
i would of raised the turn... these types of bets are indeed block bets and i put him on top pair... i come across many situations like this and a raise usually make them check the river or fold from the raise.
but in ur situation... u can keep it cheap... i still thinking raising gives me a better read... the last bet from him could of been like 10 dollars and what would u do then? call him down with no info on his strength?
Posted Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:07 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Call the river, obv. Cry when he shows you the winner, then move on.
Posted Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:08 pm GMT by Ensano
*** TURN ***
Die Bibi: bets $4
Ensano: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Die Bibi: bets $5
Ensano: calls $5
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Die Bibi: shows   (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
Ensano: mucks hand
Die Bibi collected $36.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $38.75 | Rake $1.85
Board
Seat 1: Big Rounder9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Ensano mucked
Seat 3: durabauke folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ChangLeeSun (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Beinta Cool (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Tuwei168 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: Die Bibi showed and won ($36.90) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 8: joecombs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: mecbm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Posted Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:41 pm GMT by General Sal
Man, I waited too long thinking about the final outcome.
Yeah, it's a bit tricky with someone playing back at you. You could keep the pot small as one person suggested, and you had the odds to call on the end.
I think a push on the turn looks good in retrospect, but it's such a scary board. I don't know why this guy wants to proceed on a board like this out of position. Definitely playing with fire.
You got this guy outclassed man. Make sure you find him on another table and tkae his money.
Posted Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:17 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
Well, he gave away crucial information on this hand. A weak lead bet indicated a weak hand. If he makes this move again, you can probably punish him.
I still prefer flat calling the turn given what we knew, but if we had this hand as additional information, I would definitely raise. That's why reads and information are so important.
Posted Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:50 am GMT by TheSalche
Man I hate it when people do this ... such an annoying betting pattern from the villain here, but it makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised to see a flopped flush played the same way though.
Posted Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:29 am GMT by Moon_Child
| Moon_Child wrote: | i would of raised the turn... these types of bets are indeed block bets and i put him on top pair... i come across many situations like this and a raise usually make them check the river or fold from the raise.
but in ur situation... u can keep it cheap... i still thinking raising gives me a better read... the last bet from him could of been like 10 dollars and what would u do then? call him down with no info on his strength? |
yep and i was correct... top pair... and he got lucky on the river... he was kinda scared that u had the flush probably and i think he tried to make it cheap for himself to see a showdown...
Posted Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:10 pm GMT by AHBrownell
I raise the turn. You are at least drawing at the nuts, and you might be up against something like JxT  or something like that. I mean he hit a 5 outer, so not a whole lot you can do. But honestly, if you call the turn, you are forced to call the river too, I'd be sick to see a $15-20 bet on the river here...
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