Posted Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:55 am GMT by AHBrownell
I consider myself a no limit specialist and consider myself in the top 5% of the players in the world at this single game. HOWEVER, I'm a complete novice at every other poker game I've tried. Something clicked when I started playing NL, and its something that just doesn't happen when I play other poker games.
I really would like to learn some more games, but I often feel like I have no control in the hands or that I have a hard time identifying when I should push my advantage. I've read diamond's excellent posts on the horse games - but I was just curious the best ways to transition to a few others AND if doing so can be worth it. I don't mind grinding away at the NL tables - I average around $80 to $120 for a two hour session (including rakeback), but I wouldn't want to play other poker games unless I had a substantial edge.
Where is the edge for stud (hi and hi/lo), omaha (hi and hi/lo), razz, w/e else?
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Posted Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:50 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
I'm not I know what you're asking by "where is the edge." The edge in every game is in exploiting the mistakes of bad players. IMO, opponents are prone to make some of their worst mistakes in Stud Hi/Lo, and it's not as easy to make up for mistakes early in the hand in that game.
However, if you're primarily familiar with NL Hold'em, I might suggest Limit Hold'em as a good second game to start with. That will get you used to a limit structure in a game you're familiar with. From there, I don't think it really matters what game you want to try next; just play at lower stakes than you normally would so you can practice.
Posted Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:04 pm GMT by crack
Top 5% in the world? but aren't you playing just NL100? or NL200? You may have made a slight mistake if you think you are in the top 5%. 
Probably right to start off with limit hold em because you know the rules of the game quite well, but read books, post hands and practice.
I started off learning Limit Holdem, Stud, Stud H/L, Razz, Limit Omaha 8 and then Pot Limit Omaha 8.
I always played NL Holdem Cash games but now it seems like a total rock garden so I exclusively play limit and yes, there is a big edge there in those games if you play well enough.
Posted Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:15 pm GMT by AHBrownell
Hey guys thx for the replies. I'll give limit hold'em and stud hi/lo a try.
Crack, each percentage of a large population is actually quite large too. In this case I'd imagine there must be at least 100,000 NL hold'em players (that play on a very regular basis --- and this is actually much smaller than the actual number of regulars out there). The top five percent of that group is 5,000. I'd put myself in that group.
I multitable 100NL and 200NL because I think it gives me the biggest chance to be profitable consistently. I rarely have losing sessions and I haven't had a losing month in at least a year. I think I could probably make the transition to playing one or two tables at a higher level fairly easily, but I don't see the point of doing so. I like winning my couple thousand, cashing out and buying a new toy - I'm not looking to become the next SBRugby (though I wouldn't mind someday taking a shot here or there). I think that a lot of players make the mistake of playing a single table at a higher level just because they want to "move up," but it may be detrimental to their success.
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