Posted Thu May 13, 2004 6:22 am GMT by krakajak
I’m big blind with K9o in .5/$1 NL Someone raises to $1. I figure, these cards are better than average, and I’m already in for .50, might as well pay another .50. Flop comes, a K and garbage. I bet $1, and the raiser raises another $1. I’m already in for one, so I call. Nothing comes on the turn, and I check to him. He bets $3. I don’t think he has AA or KK, or he probably would have made a bigger pre-flop raise. He might have AK, but he might be bluffing with an underpair or AQ or AJ. The thing is, I know if I call this bet, he’s gonna come even harder after the river. I know my hand is not that strong, so I fold.
I know I should have played it differently, but I’m not sure how. Should I have folded preflop? Should I have just checked to the raiser after the flop? Should I have folded to his raise?
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Posted Thu May 13, 2004 9:19 am GMT by ride928
What I would have done in this situation is raise on the flop. I would put him on a lower pocket pair. He was testing to see if you had the king. We already know he doesnt have kings or aces because of the small preflop raise. If you raised the flop, he probably would've called and checked it down to you on the turn and maybe river. Raising on the flop is a great way to find out exactly where you stand in the hand. Now keep in mind K9 isn't exactly an optimum starting hand, but he did only raise your BB x1 and that probably wouldnt push me away either, especially heads up...then flopping top pair. I'm sure you had him beat on this one, just raise the flop next time by another BB or two and you'll drag back a small pot. Don't go nuts with the raise....just enough to say that you've got the king.
Posted Thu May 13, 2004 9:22 am GMT by ride928
I'm sorry. I misread your origional post. I didn't realize you were in early position on the hand. The advice still kind of goes the same. I would have reraised him another $2 probably and then bet out another $3 on the turn.
Posted Thu Jun 24, 2004 4:43 pm GMT by UMCorian
K9 is a respectable hand to play in late position. I think you made the right play there. When you got high pair with the kicker you had (and the board was garbage, as you said), your high pair w/good kicker is probably the best hand. Assuming no flush draws existed and no straight draws were obvious, the only thing that could screw you would be 2 pair, and odds are someone in an early position is not playing Kxs or garbage cards under 10.
About the only way you could get screwed would be by K10, KJ, KQ or AK and most players would have done more than a minraise preflop with the latter two. If you went back at him just as hard as he went at you, there's a good chance he might have folded exactly as you did.
Keep in mind, this is only if you see no chance for a straight or a flush, like 2, 6, K rainbow comes up. If those exist, try to remember if he has a history of playing suited connectors. If yes, give a bit more respect.
Posted Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:38 pm GMT by supa-t
I would have bet out against him as well.
If i get a strong hand or my hand is strong after the flop, I won't fold it without first applying a little pressure.
Now, if they came back over me for a sizable raise I'd have a decision to make. Then I'd evaluate the cards and the player I'm up against.
Posted Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:35 pm GMT by skel
Just my 2 cents so take it with a grain of salt but I personally would not play K9 from EP unless im heads up
Posted Wed Sep 22, 2004 6:00 pm GMT by howzit
my thoughts are PASS ON K9!! Let's look past that, you flop top pair which is pretty ok.
If you know your player: when he doubles the blind pre-flop, does he bet the flop no matter what comes down?
I like to check here and see what this guy has. Maybe he'll bluff at it one time and you can call. then check-raise him on the turn to see how he reacts. After that, just fold.
BTW, i think you folded a losing hand.
Posted Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:56 am GMT by suitedaces84
I like the fold there. The pot wasn't that big and you know he's going to bet harder after the river, and you know if he had the K he had a better kicker than you. It's tough to not be the bluff police in a heads up situation like this. But given no info on his style of play I think you did the right thing to fold. Without position on the pre-flop raiser I would fold K 9o even with the 50% discount.
Posted Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:52 pm GMT by QuietOne
I don't understand this at all. If you K9o was good enough to see the flop and you caught a card and you were sure that the other guy didn't have you beat, you should have never folded. I think, and of course this is only a guess since we don't know who the other guy had been playing or any other important info, but he saw you were playing scared and bluffed you out.
He raised $1 on you for one reason, to see what you would do. If you raised him back, he would have seen that you were serious and probably either folded or just called back. (Again I'd have to say this is only a guess since I wasn't there but it's the kind of move I make.)
Now you only called. He now knows you are not slow playing because you did put in a $1 raise but he also knows you are not to confident in your hand since you only called his raise. He knows he can bluff you out of the pot. So what's the next step? A big raise to get you to fold.
But on the other side, unless I got in for my Big Blind, I would have never have even played that hand. The cards are weak, not suited or connectors.
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