Posted Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:16 pm GMT by xDiamond_CutteRx
I feel like it should be one of those two, but I'm not sure which. I probably just play bad.
Live $1/$3 NL game. Hero has $170ish to start the hand.
Two limp to me in the CO. I call with   . Button calls, SB folds, BB checks. The button is a very loose, bad player.
FLOP   
Checks to MP, who bets $10. I call $10, the button calls $10, all others fold.
Pot: $43 after drop.
TURN 
MP bets $20. I decide to just call $20, not really sure why. Probably dumb. The button immediately declares "all-in," very excited to shove in for $111 total. The MP player looks at him, looks at the board, and decides to call, but looks like he doesn't like his hand much.
Pot: $285, $91 for me to call. I have about $45 behind, so obviously I might as well push if I'm going to call (if I think I'm best).
This has to either be a very easy push or a very easy fold, but for some reason I cannot decide which it is, even after a night to think about it.
The range I'm assigning to both players is a minimum of three nines, although there is a slim (negligible) chance the button has something like   . However, I am beat only by a full house or the Ace high flush, and I have trouble weighting the ranges of each player.
Thoughts on this hand, other than that I obviously should have raised on the turn?
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Posted Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:47 pm GMT by kingetje
given the ammount you started the hand with and reads on villains i'd happily get it in here
Posted Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:52 pm GMT by miaowmiaowchowface
id raiase preflop and on the flop, and I'd get it in here too after some thought
Posted Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:13 pm GMT by MrDarling
once again I erased my original reply.
I started with its an easy push. Also started with the thought that we're not worried about MP at all.
However the more I think the more I confuse my self.
How good is MP? Is he likely to open limp Axs? Is he likely to bet into 4 players NFD on a paired board?
Is he bad enough to call an AI on 3 to flush with naked trips?
So now I'm thinking its more likely MP as a flush. If he any decent there is more chances he have 87/54 then Axs from the PF action.
As for the BTN, I first though HE had the flush, and being a bad played and the fact that there are more Axs combos then SC combos left its seemed like there is a bigger chance he has the Nut flush, however now I'm leaning towards him having exactly 66.
This is a tough spot and its probably pretty close it doesn't really matter...
Am not sure how raising the turn will make the decision easier, unless you think by than you will have enough money in you'd feel committed.
I think a better play would have been to raise the flop. The only hand you are really worry about is K9. Most trips hand will probably slow play it and I don't think you do too bad vs them any way with your combo draw.
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