Posted Tue May 18, 2004 11:28 am GMT by blue eyes
HI, I have watched no limit on tv recently. I would like to know the best way to approach a no limit home game. We have been playing for quite a while and I have been successful at making some money ( although we play more for the fun ) Most of the big pots I win are when I am able to draw a big hand that gets down to the river. I am just wondering if I should play more aggresively pre-flop like I see on tv. More times than not, we see a flop with no raises to the big blind. This leads me to believe that I can take advantage of that fact somehow. I appreciate any advice, keep in mind, I'm no beginner, I'm just not someone who plays to make a living. Never play online. Also, we do not play tournament where there is one winner, but we play almost as if it were a tournament meaning, if you run out of money, you're out, but whatever you have at a given time at the end of the night is yours to keep.
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Posted Tue May 18, 2004 11:32 am GMT by Always_Bored
Everything you need to know about a home poker tourney is under this link!
We should really put something like this as a sticky so this question doesnt get asked everyday.
Posted Tue May 18, 2004 1:23 pm GMT by blue eyes
No, I am not trying to host one, I told you, we don't play tournament, I'm looking for advice from experienced people, who take under consideration what I described in my post
Posted Tue May 18, 2004 1:59 pm GMT by BeerWench13
Of course I could talk strategy all day, but I would say that the best advice I've been given regarding poker was this: "Play the player, not the cards". If you're at a tight table where you know everyone will fold if you raise preflop, then by all means, raise preflop. I'm not saying to do so every hand, but do it occasionally. More than likely, you'll take down the blinds. They'll pay for two free hands. I also suggest you read the posts on this forum. There are numerous types of players here and each has their own method. Learn from their posts. You can also find numerous books on THE. Read up on what the pros have to say. I've found the best learning tool is to play, play, play. You'll learn more from experience than you ever will from any book or advice, but there's no such thing as too much information either.
Posted Tue May 18, 2004 2:00 pm GMT by ballbp
As far as your question regarding pre-flop raising, it's always said that if you have a good starting hand you need to jam the pot and get money in there. I host a low-limit game a couple of times a week and I found that raising pre-flop doesn't get many people out of a pot if they were already planning on calling a bet. If they think they're A 5o is good they're going to pay that extra buck or two to see a flop. If I hit a good flop then I'm looking good and keep firing at the pot, but when I miss, I either have to slow down and try to get a feel for what the other players have or keep firing representing that I made my hand on the flop. This of course backfires on me at times. All in all, in low limit games I raise pre-flop only when I have a very good starting hand and tend to call otherwise.
Posted Tue May 18, 2004 2:44 pm GMT by Always_Bored
| blue eyes wrote: | | No, I am not trying to host one, I told you, we don't play tournament, I'm looking for advice from experienced people, who take under consideration what I described in my post |
sorry  ill read your whole post next time
Posted Wed May 19, 2004 8:24 am GMT by blue eyes
thanks ballp, but like I said in my post, we play no limit, so I'm inclined to say the best way to play is not to allow yourself to be outdrawn, in limit, you have no choice, but in no limit I can go all in with a pair of kings because it is strong at that point, if I slow play, I let flushes and trips, and straights become possible for my opponents.
But my post is aimed at people who have experience with no limit. I am commenting on what I saw on t.v. I don't know if it is the best strategy.
Another thing to consider which makes my post irrelevant is we are trying to have a good time as well, so if I'm dealt a pair of kings and go all in, and someone has a pair of aces, they will call all in, so one of us is going home. Not very good for that person who was counting on a night of poker with his buddies with some beer and chips ya know.
Posted Wed May 19, 2004 3:08 pm GMT by Fat Tony
well, once a few guys get eliminated, they can start up a side game to cure the sitting around problem. 
Posted Thu May 20, 2004 10:11 pm GMT by MuddyGrimes
Switch the game to pot limit if you are worried about the getting busted out early factor...
With low limit blinds...
Every now and then we play Pot Limit with a $25 buy in
Starting blinds are .25/50
This has worked great to increase both the level of play from the limit version and to stop the whining that would happen when someone busted out in the first 15 minutes..
Posted Sun May 23, 2004 9:21 pm GMT by Jauron
To the original poster. What you see on TV is a big time game of bluffs. If you decide to pattern your play on what you see on TV, your either going to be broke or lucky, you don't know enough yet to play that way. To make matters worse you are playing with fishes it seems. Fishes love to call. Bluffing a fish can be hazardess to your stack, cause the guy calling you has probably got you beat, he's just to chicken shit to bet it himself.
Raising pre-flop should be happening on most hands. If it isn't, introduce the table to it by raising on even marginal hands and see what gets called. Your table is new, and learning, the wild man in the begining on a new table tends to win more. Once you learn enough to turn that wild into aggressive, but smart, you'll be cleaning up.
Remember most of your leassons are paid for in cash at the table. Learn them the first time and you'll be all set. I never really understood a check raise until it cost me all my money one night. I never really understood a bluff until I let a big pot go and the guy showed me he had nothing. I didn't read the board well until I got broke a few times from not paying attention to it. You learn by messing up.
If your table really is that green, then you can experiment and get out cheap now. Just remember the first time you play seasoned players the same stuff might not work on them. If you've been playing them for a while you should by now have figured out who loves to see flopps, who loves to draw. Who slow plays everything, who will stay in if he catches any part of the flop and who you can buy a pot from. Use it all.
One last thing, if your friends want to play for "fun" then you'll never be any good. I play for blood, but to me that is fun.
Posted Mon May 24, 2004 11:07 am GMT by nicthestick
Remember that the tables on TV are Short Handed.... ie 6 player for the most part, and the crappy hands the fellas are playing is because of the short handed nature of the game. My advice is limp with alot of junk if the pots are not getting raised, and raise in position with anything decent.
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