Against loose players....how do you know what they have? |
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Posted Sun May 23, 2004 11:45 am GMT by darcy tucker
When you play against really loose players who play (8, 3 offsuit) all the time it's almost like playing against the blinds. For instance if you have k, 10 and the flop comes down k, 3, 8 and you raise and the other guy reraises. How can you figure what he has?
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Posted Sun May 23, 2004 11:55 am GMT by ballbp
You can never be sure what anyone is playing. You can only get a feel for what a player plays by hopefully seeing enough hands he has to show-down to know the type of hands he's capable of playing. If they are extremely loose then the best way to handle the situation is to once again, play good hands and watch how the other players bet with what they end up having. Don't let them drag you into their game of chance. It might look like they are dragging in pots with junk and it seems to be working but they will loose in the long run playing wild.
Posted Sun May 23, 2004 8:51 pm GMT by Jauron
Play back at him again. If he goes over the top again, let it go. If not you know your hand is probably good.
Honestly though if he limped in and you raised and hit your King, you just have to assume it's good. Let the guy get paid off if he has 8,3. Your gonna be playing scared if you let that shit get to you.
Posted Mon May 24, 2004 3:59 am GMT by snoogins47
You can't.. you really can't.
That is, if he's loose-aggressive, and doesn't have any glaring tendencies.
Most players do not fit into this mold ;P
For instance, if he often comes out firing on the flop and ending up with nothing, and all of a sudden, he bets 1/3 of the typical amount, it might be because he wants a call. Or, if he announces his bet/check differently, or...
I can't tell you specifics hehe. If he's not that aggressive, and just plays practically every hand, just be patient, wait for good hands, and let'r rip. You'll know that going in, you're typically the favorite.
Don't fall into the Hellmuth trap (tm.) When Phil looks like he has gotten shot when he sees his pre-flop raises called with J7o, he has a right to: the stakes are very high, and that's not a common thing for somebody who is in a professional, or high stakes environment, to do. It's not the money making play, statistically.
However, if you're playing low limit, low-stakes NL, or for M&Ms, you can't be that shocked at people playing inferior hands. I've seen many people with a good game concept get busted like this, thinking "There's no way he called a bet of 4x the big blind pre-flop with a 2 in his hand."
Well, if 4x the big blind is $20,000 and you're playing against Johnny Chan, you're probably right. If 4x the big blind is barely enough for a 10-10-220 long distance call under 20 minutes, you have to realize what you may be up against. People in this "Hellmuth trap" (tm) either bet and get re-raised, then call... or call big raises, and lose. Their "superior" cards did not hold up, and it cost them their whole stack just because they couldn't fathom the notion of a loose player ;P
No matter what, don't let this drastically alter your play. However, as per everybody, you DO have to tailor your style accordingly.
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