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AA against AA.



Posted Mon Jul 28, 2003 7:14 pm GMT by holdemjoe
a friend of mine had AA, as did the other guy, but of course, the other guy caught his flush. I dont think thats a bad beat, but it still sucked, because the pot was huge.

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Posted Mon Jul 28, 2003 10:00 pm GMT by Poker_Vendetta
A very bad out-draw, perhaps that is the term you are looking for. I don't know statistics, perhaps Genocidal could do the math but AA obviously can't be suited together so 4/5 cards would have to be one suit so the odds of that are pretty unlikely. Usually that doesn't happen, 3 of one suit is fairly common but 4 is pushing it. You're friend did get unlucky.


Posted Tue Jul 29, 2003 5:13 am GMT by Geno
Odds first card is the right suit is 12/50 (u hold one remember!), if it hits it is 11/49 for the next card, 10/48 3rd, 9/47 for 4th and fifth can be anything other than that suit for this to work 38/46.

Note that this assumes that the flop and turn are all one suit. If the river is required to make the four suited then there are 5 permutations each with exactly the same odds - here is the example:

Club, Club, Club, Club, Other = 0.001775566841
Club, Club, Club, Other, Club = 0.001775566841
Club, Club, Other, Club, Club = 0.001775566841
Club, Other, Club, Club, Club = 0.001775566841
Other, Club, Club, Club, Club = 0.001775566841

Total odds are 0.008877834205 (which looks very wrong now! Confused)

So by my terrible maths, the odds are about 1 in 112.64 which seems far too much of a long shot.

Adam or some else with a brain, help me out here!



Posted Sat Aug 16, 2003 4:40 pm GMT by karasz
well if you really want a bad beat...

$10-20 limit (we all spent $2 to play in a tourney... then just took a box of chips)

i have ks 7d

other guy qc qd

he doubles big blind, i call...

flop as qs js

i bet $50, he calls

turn ts

i bet $50, he calls

river 7c

i bet $100, he waits about 5 minutes... calls

i flip over the Ks... he cant believe it...






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