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nuts and river



Posted Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:56 pm GMT by skel
Just started learning poker today. Can someone tell me what nuts and river refers to. I did a search but too many threads come up to of use.

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Posted Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:00 pm GMT by ballbp
When you have the nuts you have the best possible hand with the cards in that hand. The river is the fifth and last card to hit the board.


Posted Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:07 pm GMT by skel
ok thanks


Posted Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:09 pm GMT by skel
ballbp wrote:
When you have the nuts you have the best possible hand with the cards in that hand. The river is the fifth and last card to hit the board.


wait, do you mean you have the best hand out of the people playing with the cards in your hand , or the best possible hand with the cards that is possible



Posted Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:19 pm GMT by ballbp
No I'm saying the best five card hand using all seven. Say you have A K of hearts in your hand and there are three other hearts on the board and no full houses or straight flushes can be made. You are said to have the nut flush. See?


Posted Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:33 am GMT by skel
understood thanks for the example Laughing

I tried online poker for the first time last night. Play money, I lost 3000 bucks in 20 minutes Shocked



Posted Fri Jun 25, 2004 1:15 pm GMT by Ventrick
Don't characterize Play money vs. real money games. They are 2 totally different animals.

In Play money everyone is a calling station, they'll chase gutshot and runner-runner straight and flush draws all day everyday no matter how much you bet to chase them off because the can always reload.

In real money games if the stakes are high enough you can actually bet and play the player instead of the cards. In play money you play the cards.



Posted Mon Jun 28, 2004 6:48 am GMT by skel
Ya, I kinda figured that. People are raising in NL hundreds of dollars before the flop and it turns out they have a pair of 2's or something like that. I suppose I should just throw 100 bucks down and start playing the .50/1/1.00 rooms to get a better idea. At least play money is a bit of practice on what figuring out what type of hands I have.


Posted Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:43 am GMT by skel
ok another question. I was just reading another thread and he used the term Pocket rocket. What is this? Also why do people use the example of 7 and 2 all the time?


Posted Mon Jun 28, 2004 7:48 am GMT by jwrussell
Pocket Rockets are Pocket Aces, also referred to as American Airlines. Everyone always talks about 7,2 off suit because it is considered the absolute worst starting hand in Texas Hold'em.

Welcome to the addiction. Laughing



Posted Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:32 am GMT by skel
Ok thanks. Just found out Big slick is AK


Posted Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:18 am GMT by jwrussell
Do a search for something like "card names" or "pocket card names". There are multiple threads with that kind of info, but here's a few:
A,K Big Slick
A,2 I thnk is Little Slick
A,A Pocket Rockets or American Airlines
K,K Cowboys
J,5 Motown (Jacks and Fives "Jackson Five")
Q,3 San Francisco Waiter or Gay Waiter (no offence, just repeating) comes from Queen with a Trey
3,3 Crabs
2,2 Ducks
10,2 Doyle Brunson (he won two WSOP championships with this hand)
A,Q Also Doyle Brunson because he supposedly never plays this hand

Like I said, there are a bunch of threads with many more of these.



Posted Mon Jun 28, 2004 11:41 am GMT by wEbMaStEr
jwrussell wrote:
Q,3 San Francisco Waiter or Gay Waiter (no offence, just repeating) comes from Queen with a Trey


lmao! 1st time i heard of that Laughing
very imaginative



Posted Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:04 pm GMT by skel
Ok im still a little confused on the blinds. I click the automatic anti blind playing online. I dont really know what the use of this is or what it sometimes just asks me to check or raise. HELP


Posted Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:45 pm GMT by jwrussell
Ummmm...not sure what you are asking. I'll assume you are playing Texas Hold'em, and assume you are simply asking how the blinds work.

Here goes:

Since all Casino's and all online sites have a dedicated dealer, there is a "button" used to denote who would be the dealer if the deal was rotating from one player to the next each hand. This button moves one player to the left every hand.

The player directly to the left of the button is the SMALL BLIND, the person to his/her left is the BIG BLIND. These are usually set at a 1 to 2 ratio. In other words, if the SMALL BLIND is .50 then the BIG BLIND is $1. The BIG BLIND will always be the first limit in a limit game. So...if you are playing $1/$2 Hold'em, then the Big Blind will be $1.

The blinds are forced bets that serve to make sure there is action on every hand. If you did not have the blinds then everyone could simply sit around and wait for A,A or K,K without every having to enter a pot. It also serves to make sure that you have to pay something to see the flop. When you are one of the BLINDS then you have the option of RAISING (in either blind) or CHECKING (in the big blind) if no one else has raised.

The reason it only asks you to check or raise if you are in the BIG BLIND is that, unless someone has raised, you have already called the previous bets with your BLIND.

I hope this helps...



Posted Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:22 pm GMT by mindgame
wow...just thought I'd read some of these beginners' threads--it's been a while. You guys are saints, all of you. The patience of Job. I guess somebody's gotta do it.


Posted Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:46 am GMT by skel
yes JW that is what I was asking and thanks for the explanation. I feel quite comfortable now playing Holdem. I played in a freeroll tourney last night on pokerstars and came in 214 out of 4000. Not bad for first try i think. Im not sure how I should have played this so maybe some tips.

I was at a table with about 9,000 in chips. Probably had the least chips at the table. Leader had about 55,000. It was up to 500 ante I think so it was getting quite expensive to call. No one would let me see the flop for anything less than like 2 grand each time. It became increasingly difficult to call 2k, just to see the flop so i would often find myself folding pre flop. I finally got KK. The flop was AJK so I went all in hoping to make a dent in their monstrous stacks. Leader called me and wound up getting a straight for the win.



Posted Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:50 am GMT by jwrussell
Not much you can do about that hand Skel, sounds like you played it well to me. The one thing I notice from your description towards the end of the tourney, you mention that no one would let you see the flop for less than 2K. I don't really have enough info to go by, but it sounds like you were trying to limp into too many pots. I don't know what kind of cards you had, but if they were good enough to want to see the flop with you probably should have been raising, especially being on the short stack. I don't know where the money would have started had this been a real tourney, but my guess is you would have been in it or close to it. At this point you need to decide if you are there to squeak up the pay chain or to win the tourney. If you are there to win the tourney this is the time to start playing a little looser and more aggressive. In my opinion.

Quick, non-long-winded answer: you played it right.



Posted Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:23 am GMT by skel
Everyone started tourney with 1.5k

I was getting crap like 84 and nothing of real value IMO. The Blinds were draining me. I got likea J8 and crap like that few times that I maybe would have liked to see the flop a few times but really couldnt afford to. Yes I was trying to limp in. Yes my friend said that my position was in the money for real tourney. I guess I just made too many mistakes like losing 6,000 in chips with only a pair of Aces. I was fishing for something else and that put me as the low stack at the table. Once I was down to about 4,000 I started getting paranoid. Antes were up to 500. I figured Id play my next good hand all in which as trips kings. I just happened to lose to the straight but no way I was throwing away 3 kings. Oh well I learned a lot. Hopefully will play better next tourney






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