Posted Sun Jun 27, 2004 5:00 pm GMT by SmilinMark21
Dear All,
I have been learning hold'em which i have played a fair bit now but after the tournaments there is usually a cash game of omaha, being new to this i have found that i havent been doing too well
how does play differe in general between
1. omaha and hold'em
2. tournament and cash games
i am aware with most of the practicals aspects of the differences, but how should it affect my play??
thanks
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Posted Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:33 pm GMT by snoogins47
First I'll go over the easiest part: Tourneys and Cash games.
Basically, the vital difference, given you have enough money to play at the limits properly (meaning, quite a bit more than you buy-in wit...)
is that you should be always willing to take gambles, when you're the mathematical favorite. There are times when you will arrive on the short end of all these situations, and be down large for a night... but in a cash game, the only thing that suffers in the short term is the size of your bankroll (though of course, if one big downswing means you lose your house, you might want to NOT heed this advice ;P)
In a tournament, losing all your chips on one draw out... well, you're on the sidelines, and any shot at making money is gone.
There are many, many differences in successful strategies between tournaments and cash games, but that's the #1 in my mind. In a tournament, survival takes precendece, whereas in a cash game, it's not a bad idea to think of every cash game you play in as one long session. A big down night or two, if you were always getting the best of it mathematically, is just an inconvenience.
Now, differences between omaha and texas...
Well, if you're playing Hi/Lo, the differences are so numerous that any explanation of both the mechanics and decent strategy would take up way more than I'm willing to type (and way more than anybody is willing to read on a message board ;P) Anyway..
ALWAYS remember you MUST use two cards from your hand, and three from the board. No exceptions.
Four clubs on the board? Too bad, you STILL NEED TWO IN YOUR HAND!
Ace-High straight on the board? If you don't have two unpaired cards 10 or above, you ain't got it.
It's something that's a simple concept, but very, very confusing at first, especially to somebody whom has played a lot of Texas in their time. I know you said you understand the practical aspects of it... but this is something that I think needs to be written in big bold letters every single time somebody writes anything on Omaha.
Also, another thing to be wary of... Ya'll have four cards... and many more people tend to see the flop in Omaha than in Texas.
Therefore, you have to really re-adjust your thinking as far as what hands are good. Pocket pairs are nice, especially high ones, but even when you flop a middle set, sometimes it isn't good, and very often, somebody is drawing to make a hand to beat you.
Hands with lots of straight potential (8 9 10 J) are often pretty solid starters, and suited aces gain a lot of value. (In Hi/lo, those middle connectors are pretty much worthless. In straight Hi, they're pretty decent, but don't fall in love with them, as you can end up seeing alot of second best straights, or losing to flushes.)
This of course, applies after the flop as well. You have overcards? Pretty much worthless. You have an overpair? Not quite AS bad, but still not very promising at all.
Now, as in any poker game, you shouldn't fold everything but the pure nuts. However, you're going to have to be a lot closer to the nuts to have the best hand than you do in Texas. Your King-High flush isn't nearly as promising as it is in Texas. Your second-best straight isn't either.
One more very interesting thing to realize: In Texas, there are times when a drawing hand is a favorite to the made hand.
In Omaha, this happens much more frequently. This is one aspect that can make low limit Omaha so painful for Texas Hold'em converts; protecting your moderate hand is not nearly as useful, since low limit players tend to chase anyway, and there's so many more ways the draws can hit and beat you. However, the beauty of the fish being chasers in Omaha is that they will often chase second best (or worse!) draws. It's a lot harder stop people from chasing in Omaha, but it's a lot easier to punish them for it ;P
Other than that, the rest will come from experience and reading up on the game, if you're so inclined. I could go on for days and days about the differences, but there are people out there with much more experience than I, whom can write much better than I as well, so I'll spare you all ;P
Posted Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:44 am GMT by SmilinMark21
thank you very much
i see myself in what you are talking about there, where i have played slow my made straight at the start but someone ahs caught up with a flush from the turn and river and i didnt fold
will take more beats to learn but i enjoy it
thanks again
Mark
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