Posted Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:17 pm GMT by pathomps
can someone give me a clear definition of a bad beat? thanks in advance
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Posted Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:51 pm GMT by ORGrinder
i doubt anyone can, because there is no "real" definition... at least not that i know of.
however, many of the sites or establishments that offer prize money for "bad beats" consider a bad beat any beat on a boat or better.
again though... this is up to the house.
:D
Posted Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:48 am GMT by swiftone
i would just say being outdrawn whilst you were a favorite. some kind of longshot miracle card coming up..
Posted Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:55 am GMT by jwrussell
As I understand it, a bad beat is any beat where a favorite, made hand is outdrawn.
In other words, someone having trips and getting beat out by quads when two running cards hit.
As to the casinos, they have to define it in a strict sense and make the hands that get beat high or they would be paying out all the time.
Posted Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:35 am GMT by pathomps
i have Q's over 10's and the guy next to me has A's over Q's, is that a bad beat? he had pocket A's and got his boat on the turn, got my boat on the river?
Posted Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:20 pm GMT by Underbelly
I think a bad beat can be different for every person. When ever the odds and all logic says you are going to win and you lose, that's a bad beat. I
An example. I wa dealt pocket A's and went all-in. A guy with pocket 7's called me. He drew a 7 in the flop and ended up winning. Others at the game talked about my bad beat but I didn't think it was, since we both had pairs and I was only a slight favorate.
A little latter and guy with a j5o need a 5 on the turn and another on the river to win (facing 2 pair, Q and J). He got both 5's. Now that I consider a bad beat!
Posted Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:18 pm GMT by honestbleeps
Actually, underbelly, you're a pretty huge favorite with AA over 77... Although interestingly enough, you're far more of a favorite with AA over KK than you are over 77, because 77 can hit a lot more straights, giving it a few percentage points of an edge over KK facing up against AA...
So in my opinion, AA losing to 77 is, statistically, a "bad beat", but it's certainly not as absurd of a bad beat as someone flopping a flush, and a guy with top pair pulling two runners to make a full house, for example...
Posted Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:22 pm GMT by racquet000
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Posted Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:16 am GMT by krakajak
A bad beat is when you get beaten by a hand that had no business being in the action to begin with.
Example of a non-bad beat: A player in mid position limps in with QT suited. You raise with aces. The flop is AKJ. This is not a bad beat, because limping in with QT suited from mid position is not a particularly bad play.
Example of a bad beat: You raise with aces from mid position. A player in late position cold calls your raise with QT offsuit. The flop is AKJ. This is a bad beat, because the player with QT offsuit had no business cold calling your raise.
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