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Posted Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:17 am GMT by krakajak
I just read an article that said it is often a mistake to make a pre-flop raise from the button, even if you think you have the best hand, because this will make your hand harder to defend.
The example the author gave was AJo. Suppose there are 4 limpers, you raise, and the flop comes J,9,3. If you had just called, you could fold some drawing hands, but since the pot was raised, they may now be getting good odds to chase. Also, Someone with JT would normally bet this hand, and you could raise and scare off the draws. But since you raised pre-flop, they will probably check to you, and you won't be able to raise and scare the draws away.
I have 2 questions:
1) do you think the autor is right, that you should just call with AJ on the button?
2) if so, what are some other situations where you would want to just call with a hand you think is best?
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Posted Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:04 am GMT by PokaJoka
No its a right move to raise for 2 reasons.
1) To get the bad hands out (big blind, decrease pot odds for players with weak hands)
2) Example of why to raise: I had AK, big blind had 8,7. I was also on the button and i thought to myself "Let me mix up my game and mask my hand." I call. Flop: 8,7,K. Im thinking "YES top pair with top Kicker." Big blind raises... I'm thinking maybe he has K10 and paired up. I raise him. He calls. Heads up. Turn is 6, so im still putting him on a draw. He bets I re raise he calls. River doesnt help either of us. He wins the hand a 25 dollar pot.
For your situation, if every1 checked, i would bet, and yes they would call. Remember 4/47 are there odds for a straight, or if they have and open ended straight 8/47, or a flush draw 9/47 which is 35% chance theyll hit it on the turn. So dont worry, if u suspect some1 made their draw, fold, HEY THATS POKER. But most likely they wont and u keep betting. And 9 times out of 10 2 of the 4 or maybe 3 of the 4 will fold in a 5/10 game.
Remember blinds are good to win on OCCASION, but its not worth jepoardizes a very strong hand. A big mistake that a lot of players make is slow playing a non secured hand. Word from the wise. Play strong hands aggresively, but slow play the nuts.
Is that Ken Warren your talking about? His books are good for beginners, but if u play in competitive games buy Super Systems, very good book.
Posted Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:30 pm GMT by Underbelly
I totally agree. Limping in, even on the button with a good hand is a bad idea.
I've seen to many bad hands played because the pot was cheap and then get lucky on the flop. Of course than I hear about a bad beat!
Posted Sun May 29, 2005 11:32 am GMT by Jackal
All that is fine and dandy if you consider A,J to be a good hand. I have been hurt to many times in big pots with A,J. All I see A,J to be good for is a straight or flush if suited. A pair of aces with a jack kicker is a recipe for disaster. But if I decided to play this weak hand I would have raised and reraised like I had A,A.
Posted Sun May 29, 2005 1:20 pm GMT by suitedaces84
I often apply this to TT and JJ, but not to big aces.
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