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Head to Head



Posted Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:00 pm GMT by holdemguru
What is everyones strategys head to head?? What are some tells head to head?? I find this to be the weakest part of my game.....

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Posted Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:07 pm GMT by PhilyGmoney
yeah, me too, i tend to lose heads up games if it gets past the first 10 hands... even if i have a 4:1 chip lead Very Mad Sad


Posted Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:12 pm GMT by projectinternet
I find the most important thing about heads up is being in control. if you're not confident, or you're not making an attempt to control the game, then you're gonna be in trouble. strong moves will get you far in heads up.


Posted Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:36 pm GMT by NickHow
Never call pre-flop.


Posted Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:56 pm GMT by ChkDeezNuts
NickHow wrote:
Never call pre-flop.


Unless you have a monster...I have found that if you play big pairs like they are crap in a heads up game......like 80% of your opponents will escalate till the point you can press the All-in button.....

Since you have the funk........let the other fool play fast and loose......and hang himself........

With everything else......you are right...you have to be in there raising and putting the pressure on.



Posted Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:21 am GMT by Dave B
Push pots with nothing preflop at times. Bet after the flop most the time, but not all the time. Against and aggressive player, be patient, then look to go all in w/ good (not great) hands. Be wary of aggressive players limping in. Remember ANY pair after the flop is good. Dont chase drawing hands. Blah blah blah....


Posted Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:14 am GMT by NickHow
Quote:
Unless you have a monster...

So you call with AA from SB, giving your opponent the chance of a free flop with god knows what cards. He could have 27o and catch 2 pair on the flop and you are boned then. More likely to cost you than help you.



Posted Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:34 am GMT by Nut Flush
I just posted this link on another heads up thread. Just some strategy on UB's website.

http://www.ultimatebet.com/learn-poker/strategy-tournament.html



Posted Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:57 am GMT by Matt T
Quote:
So you call with AA from SB, giving your opponent the chance of a free flop with god knows what cards. He could have 27o and catch 2 pair on the flop and you are boned then. More likely to cost you than help you.


I couldn't disagree more (but in a 'friendly discussion' sort of way 8) ). IMO, you should be much more likely to slowplay big hands heads-up.

A couple of things I keep in mind when heads-up: Very often the best play is to either raise (or re-raise) or fold. IMO, you shouldn't be calling or checking very much (this is almost always true in general but triple-so when heads-up). Check-raise more often, this way you can occasionally check with the worst hand and your opponent knows you may be setting him up for a check-raise. In addition to slowplaying more; semi-bluff more. Big cards play well heads-up but connectors don't (as mentioned above, you don't really want drawing hands).

This last one you have to be careful with but it has served me well: Ignore the top card on the flop (unless of course it helps your hand), just imagine it's a rag and assess your hand from there.



Posted Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:55 pm GMT by snoogins47
Quote:
I couldn't disagree more (but in a 'friendly discussion' sort of way ). IMO, you should be much more likely to slowplay big hands heads-up.


Oh definitely. The simple fact is that against one player it's a lot harder to be up against something that will pay you off if you show early strength.

The "ignore the top card" thing can be very dangerous, bt in general it's not a horrible idea. It's more just that ALL relative hand values go up, A LOT, as compared to a full handed game.

It really depends on the player, alot. Switching gears at this point and doing unpredictable things is very important. If the player is very aggressive and likes to stab at pots with re-raises, maybe lead a few times to try to take it down, then when you flop a monster, lead the same way? If he's weak-tight, keep slapping him around. If the player will lead at any pot that checks to him, check-raise or check-call your moderately good hands. More likely raise ;P

Heads up is such an interesting thing that it's kinda hard to actually quantify much of the 'strategy' behind it... just be confusing, and try to read your opponent better than he reads you. Make him make one or two big mistakes, and you get the championship ;P



Posted Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:07 pm GMT by ChkDeezNuts
Nice to see that people agree with ME!!!! Laughing

But seriously....If you limp in with a monster in a heads up match...you will be surprised at how many players try their escalating bluff....and flush their Buy-In down the toilet against you.......

Sorry...you cannot just win the big blind with AA and be ahead in the long run........

Gotta make those good hands payoff boys!!!!



Posted Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:47 am GMT by NickHow
Well, as I was so comprehensively shot down I decided to give this a try last night.

Limped in with QQ, flop came 844. I bet strongly, and he comes right back over the top, putting me all-in. I called and he flips 64o and I finish second.

I know more often than not he doesnt catch trips, but I'm sure you can imagine how frustrating that was.






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