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Posted Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:58 pm GMT by JunkyardGod
that losing isnt as painful as long as you've played your cards right, and were beaten by a fair opponent.
That can be all thrown out the window when you lose to someone who has no idea how the game is actually played.
I did a small house game last night with some friends, about 6 of us. i was getting dealt terrible hands but was able to stay in with a few small pots. All the hands I had a lock on where taken away by someone who stayed in all the way with nothing, only to pop up a card to beat me.
Here's how it went:
Split a pot from a straight, that was fine we had the same hand.
Lost a two pair by him catching two pair on the river and having a higher kicker.
repeat that again.
and finally lost trips by him simplying calling my all-in for no reason and catching a flush.
Has anyone else had a problem playing against unskilled players?? (finding it impossible to bluff seems to be the biggest problem)
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Posted Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:17 pm GMT by wEbMaStEr
yeah, when you raise someone for all/most of their chips and they call you on a longshot draw and suckout, busting you out of the tourney that hurts.
If you watch the early stages of this years wsop you hear a lot of the pro's use words like "unbluffable"
most times i can do better in a $50 tourney than a $1 tourney, just because the players actually have some kinda idea of their chances
Posted Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:33 pm GMT by Tralfaz
Thats why they say that you don't need good cards to beat a good player, but you do need good cards to beat a lousy player!!! 
Posted Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:13 pm GMT by JunkyardGod
| Tralfaz wrote: | | Thats why they say that you don't need good cards to beat a good player, but you do need good cards to beat a lousy player!!! |
haha, this is very very true. I dealt garbage nearly all night. The very few hands I had the nuts on, everyone folded.
I'm trying to think of ways to prevent this. or at least a way to beat it without folding everything but AA and KK. If anyone has a suggestion that doesnt involve simply kicking his ass and not playing with him i'm open to any advice.
Posted Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:47 pm GMT by ShedEnd
Loosen the game up a little early on, throw around some bluffs and show cards after a successful one, overbet pots while the blinds are still pretty low until the whole table loosens up a little. Then switch to playing pretty tightly while observing the others at the table. Scoop in a few pots so you don't end up too short stacked when the morons have knocked each other out, but tighten up your game.
At the moment, people may have you down as a premium hand player, so naturally when you're betting preflop they're not going to call with what they may call a slightly looser player with. If you give the impression that you're quite a loose player early on, they're much more likely to call with playable hands, not just premium hands when you raise.
Posted Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:02 am GMT by howzit
I find that most inexperienced players define the term "calling-station".
Bluffing is usually out of hte question as these guys don't know how to bet double belly busters, over cards, or flush draw. I think the mentality is, "ok u bet the pot, i call." "u bet the minimum, i call" "u bet to protect ur hand, i call" "u trying to buy the pot, i call" "u bet preflop and the flop is rags, u go all-in, ok i call"
Since i can almost never put these people on hands, i try to avoid going for that one monster pot, and focus on trying to win small to medium sized pots. I tend to check a lot more w/newbies in the pot.
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