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when calling for pot odds do you include your bet?



Posted Fri Sep 24, 2004 11:17 am GMT by howzit
example:

5 callers not including you.

when you call do you get 6:1 or 5:1?



sorry, i should know this but I got confused two days ago and can't find my Lee Jones book.


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Posted Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:06 am GMT by BassHunter
I would think not since the basic premise is that you'll make money over the long term if you play the odds right. Using 6:1, you would win 25 for every 25 lost, thus breaking even. Using 5:1, you win 25 for every 20 lost, thus making a profit. I don't know what 'experts' say, but from a mathematical perspective, then seems the logical answer. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


Posted Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:37 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
howzit wrote:
example:

5 callers not including you.

when you call do you get 6:1 or 5:1?



sorry, i should know this but I got confused two days ago and can't find my Lee Jones book.


5:1. Pot size on the left. The amount you need to call on the right.



Posted Sat Oct 02, 2004 10:11 pm GMT by golddog
Right, betting 1 to win 5.


Posted Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:24 am GMT by vegasholdem
howzit wrote:
example:

5 callers not including you.

when you call do you get 6:1 or 5:1?



sorry, i should know this but I got confused two days ago and can't find my Lee Jones book.


5 to 1 against. Razz



Posted Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:58 pm GMT by suitedaces84
I'm not sure I understand your question, but it sounds like you have pot odds confused with implied odds. Pot odds do not factor in the bets and calls on the table, only the pot.


Posted Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:32 pm GMT by Nut Flush
He's not thinking of implied odds. What he was saying is there are 5 bets in the pot, if he calls there will be 6 bets. Does he get 5:1 before he calls or 6:1 after he makes the call? The answer, which has been stated already is 5:1


Posted Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:31 pm GMT by suitedaces84
Thanks for the clarification.





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