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Posted Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:45 am GMT by RhythmA
How do you play this from the given information only
25$ 10 man SnG , 5 remain
chip stack = 3700
2nd place = 3500
3,4&5 range from 800-2000
UTG you hold AhQs & raised
Button is solo caller (2nd in chips w/ 3500)
flop = 7c 5h 2h ,
I open for 300 & get called only
Turn = 9h (lets say you check)
Button makes Pot sized bet ..
Take it from here people...
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Posted Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:52 am GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| RhythmA wrote: | How do you play this from the given information only
25$ 10 man SnG , 5 remain
chip stack = 3700
2nd place = 3500
3,4&5 range from 800-2000
UTG you hold AhQs & raised
Button is solo caller (2nd in chips w/ 3500)
flop = 7c 5h 2h ,
I open for 300 & get called only
Turn = 9h (lets say you check)
Button makes Pot sized bet ..
Take it from here people... |
Muck it. Looks like a non-nut flush trying to protect his hand, so I don't think you can necessarily count your 3 A and 2 Q as outs.
Posted Sat Sep 25, 2004 2:00 am GMT by RhythmA
Hmmm ,Maybe you miss read , because I would have the "Nut" Flush if I hit the heart .. unless your calling KhQh the nuts
I'm wondering about the "EV" to chase the Heart.
I know i'm less than 5/1 to hit v/s 2/1 odds = simple answer & even if I do hit , it could be a scare card for the button . But walk me thru the EV of the H v/s 2nd in chips , thats more my Question.
I'm having a brain lock day
Posted Sat Sep 25, 2004 6:57 am GMT by Geno
Without knowing the blinds, we can't talk about pot odds bcos we don't know the pot pre-flop or wot that pot size bet is. Regardless of that, we know that the pot odds will say muck.
"The EV of the H v/s 2nd in chips" seems to be blinding your judgement, this is one to muck. Pure & simple.
Also, when Sean says about a "non-nut flush trying to protect his hand" he means the other guy is pot betting to kick u off a nut flush draw I think dude.
Posted Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:32 am GMT by wEbMaStEr
Let me start by saying i would not have played this hand anything like you did.
I would not have raised preflop from utg with AQos i would not have wanted to be re-raised behind me cos then i would have had to dump this hand and the chips i had already put in, i would have flat called and limped into the flop.
Flop, i would not have bet out, you didn't hit a pair and you have no real draws, so the only thing you could hope to do by betting out is to take the pot right now. you didn't manage it and have now put in 300 plus whatever the original raise was, it is now difficult for you to walk away from this hand (otherwise you wouldn't be asking in here) but you must put the brakes on right now and hope at best to go to showdown, whatever happens, do not put another penny into the pot.
If you had limped in from early position you would have been able to get away for the price of the bb.
Posted Sat Sep 25, 2004 12:27 pm GMT by Sean_in_NJ
| Geno wrote: | | Also, when Sean says about a "non-nut flush trying to protect his hand" he means the other guy is pot betting to kick u off a nut flush draw I think dude. |
Thanks, Geno. Exactly what I meant. I figure the guy has to bet or raise the flop with anything other than a draw. The bet on the turn tells me he made his hand (straight or flush), but can't like it too much and is trying to protect it. Or it's just a naked steal on a scare card.
Either way, if another heart falls, I have to think your EV is exactly 0.
editOk, I overstated that. Assuming he has a flush, you could probably get him to call a modest bet. If you check, he's going to check right behind you./edit
Posted Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:27 pm GMT by Jauron
Since you checked when you finally had a draw, you have to muck IMHO.
I probably would of fired another shell into the pot (or I might of even check the flop and gotten away from the hand then) I certainly would of been concerned that the only player who can do me in called, in position. That probably would of slowed me right down.
As for limping with AQ in a 5 handed game, I dunno, the button still calls, the blinds probably do as well, now you have to dump the hand on the flop. I'd be more inclined to just fold the hand than to limp with AQ 5 handed.
Posted Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:19 am GMT by nicthestick
put yourself in the other fellas place...... preflop raise... baby flop... he bets... turn no help for over cards... he checks. What would you do?? I would bet this pot as a bluff every time..... EVERY TIME!!!!!!
Posted Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:22 am GMT by nicthestick
put yourself in the other fellas place...... preflop raise... baby flop... he bets... turn no help for over cards... he checks. What would you do?? I would bet this pot as a bluff every time..... EVERY TIME!!!!!!
Posted Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:37 pm GMT by sleepless rounder
i would have raised pre flop utg with AQ. and when the flop came out all low cards, im figureing that the button (since he called) has overcards, or a pocket pair. i mean he did call a raise. hes got to have something. i would check on the flop see what he would do. if he bet, i may go all in. or i may fold it. depending on the size of the bet. it seems sketchy that he hit something on the flop when he called a raise. i still think you need a better hand to call with then you do to raise with.
Posted Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:34 pm GMT by skyfire
I would have played it exactly like the original post. AQ UTG, 5-handed. I'll raise 3-4x BB. When I miss the flop, I'll bet once more to make sure he has something. If he calls the flop, I'm gone though.
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