"Poker Corner" - new show |
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Posted Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:31 pm GMT by Nut Flush
Anybody watch the WPT last night and see the commercail for "Poker Corner"? I think they said it starts next week on Wednesday after the WPT show.
Anyway, they showed Hellmuth, Duke, and Negreanu sitting around giving comments on peoples play(I think they were critiquing the WPT show that aired prior).
Don't get me wrong, I think it may be interesting but how can you honestly comment on how people play when you see all the cards via the camera? I've seen all these people make bad plays on TV but I don't have a show to tell them how bad it was.
Who knows, maybe it will create some drama between the pros.
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Posted Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:24 pm GMT by Jables
Poker is getting too popular~
Posted Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:56 pm GMT by redd38
| Jables wrote: | | Poker is getting too popular~ |
blasphemy!!
the more people that play, the more money that is in the system
Posted Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:32 pm GMT by Curtis
I thought Duke and Daniel didnt see eye to eye
Posted Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:00 am GMT by Matt T
You mean Phil Gordon's comments on Celebrity Poker Showdown aren't enough? 
I think it would be nice if both WPT and WSOP (ESPN) would have "guest analysts" on their shows. The guest analyst could be a top pro who got busted out late in the same tourney. This past year we could have had Jesus, Doyle, and Harrington as guest analysts for the last few episodes of the '04 WSOP.
Posted Fri Oct 08, 2004 11:30 am GMT by Buffarino
| redd38 wrote: | | Jables wrote: | | Poker is getting too popular~ |
blasphemy!!
the more people that play, the more money that is in the system |
And the more popular it is, the more likely that people who don't have a clue how to play will sit down in the poker room instead of going to the blackjack tables or slots.
Posted Fri Oct 08, 2004 1:11 pm GMT by ilikepoker
| Curtis wrote: | | I thought Duke and Daniel didnt see eye to eye |
I thought so too. But if we're right, I guess its just that kind of chemistry that will be fun to watch on tv.
Posted Fri Oct 08, 2004 6:04 pm GMT by Cyberhwk
| Nut Flush wrote: |
Don't get me wrong, I think it may be interesting but how can you honestly comment on how people play when you see all the cards via the camera? |
All of the hole card camera stuff doesn't happen until editing. It's not being broadcast live so they would have to splice the footage in.
On Hollywood Home Game they ARE NOT allowed to see other people's hole cards (a celebrity actually brought up this point) and I assume they're only watching from a single camera recording the action. They can only see what everyone else sees.
Posted Fri Oct 08, 2004 6:07 pm GMT by Cyberhwk
| Curtis wrote: | | I thought Duke and Daniel didnt see eye to eye |
Has this rivalry been substantiated on anything more solid than an internet message board? ANYONE could have written in and then responded.
Posted Sat Oct 09, 2004 9:40 am GMT by ChkDeezNuts
The Duke vs. Daniel rivalry is real. It seems as if it got smoothed over though.
As for guest analyst's......Harrington is boring as hell, Chris Ferguson wasn't very entertaining on the Rounders DVD...But Doyle would have been great.
Daniel Negraunu is probably the most engaging personality in the game...He is fun to listen too.
Posted Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:02 am GMT by wEbMaStEr
| Cyberhwk wrote: | | Curtis wrote: | | I thought Duke and Daniel didnt see eye to eye |
Has this rivalry been substantiated on anything more solid than an internet message board? ANYONE could have written in and then responded. |
The messages on the board in question were written by Daniel, this is not up for dispute, he made several "open letters" criticising Annie Duke's character.
Daniel has made several criticisms of his fellow pro's on internet message boards, most recently, Phil Laak (?) for his Unabomber persona and Chris Ferguson for the "Jesus" thing.
Daniel seems to feel that as he himself is whiter than white this gives him licence to criticise anyone he wishes.
I have pretty much lost any respect i had for his character, altho of course, he is still an incredible player.
Posted Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:08 pm GMT by JohnnyCache
I always found Ferguson to seem like a really decent guy...first hand accounts in poker nation and positively fifth street paint him in a decent light, too...I don't think he has a "jesus" persona, I think it's just a name that gets hung on him due to a physical resemblence...
As for the pinhole cams, they COULD be set up to be veiwable live, or they could be added in production.
As for Duke and Dan. N....
"I hate you Ann."
"I hate you Dan."
"Ahm...I happen to be a TV producer. Here's several hundred thousand dollars."
"I love you Ann."
I love you Dan. . . at least till someone yells 'cut.'"
Posted Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:56 am GMT by Nut Flush
| Quote: | | All of the hole card camera stuff doesn't happen until editing. It's not being broadcast live so they would have to splice the footage in. |
Thanks for the revelation! The fact that it isn't broadcast live has nothing to do with it. "Poker Corner" probably isn't a live broadcast either, but I'm sure they tape it after the editing for the WPT episode has been completed. If that's how they do it, the guest pros will see the hole cards just like we do at home.
Posted Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:37 pm GMT by The D-Train
it's tonight! :D
too bad i won't see much of it since i will be watching the alcs, go red sox!
Posted Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:44 am GMT by Matt T
I thought it was decent, I enjoyed it. Hellmuth is actually a likeable person when he's not throwing a tantrum. It was interesting to see their perspective on different hands. deKnijff played so well he didn't give them much to criticize but some of the other players more than made up for it.
| Quote: | | Who knows, maybe it will create some drama between the pros. |
There was some slight disagreement/tension between Hellmuth and Sexton which now that I think about it, isn't that surprising. Sexton has already given his impression on their play during the show and you knew someone would disagree with his initial comments at some point.
Of the three, I was most impressed with Annie's comments.
D-train: sorry bro, looks like the curse continues. I'm not really a Sox fan, unless they're playing the evil empire.
Posted Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:55 am GMT by Nut Flush
| Quote: | | Of the three, I was most impressed with Annie's comments. |
I can't believe she noticed when every time that one kid was weak, he'd announce his raise to the dealer, and when he had a strong hand he didn't. Just goes to show you that you do really need to pay attention to ever little detail when playing live poker.
Martin played what I would call a perfect game, he won when he pushed and layed his hands down when he knew he was beat. Some of the other plays were, like the pros say, "donkified". They picked a good event for thier first episode.
Posted Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:06 am GMT by Matt T
| Quote: | | I can't believe she noticed when every time that one kid was weak, he'd announce his raise to the dealer, and when he had a strong hand he didn't. |
The misdirected bet, that was a good catch by Annie. It also illustrates that being a math whiz from Yale (or whatever) doesn't make one a good player (I should say great player all the time, I'm sure he is a good player most of the time). That's one of the great things about poker, even the most uneducated player can still beat players with the loftiest of degrees. Heehaw!
Posted Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:06 pm GMT by Sherrif Lobo
| Nut Flush wrote: | | Just goes to show you that you do really need to pay attention to ever little detail when playing live poker. |
I experienced something similar to this the other night. I was heads up with a guy and I had 2 pair and I put him on a draw. when he called me all in on the river...I had to stop and think....the way he was betting all hand was very decisive. he would throw in 10x big blind without even stopping. then I remembered him doing this several other times during the night....when he was full of shit.....he would slow play almost all of his good hands as well as some bad ones, but he never bet like this when he had a hand, so I call and take him down on his bluff. It felt pretty good because it was really the first time I was definitely sure that this particular guy was bluffing. I really feel like I'm starting to be able to pay attention to the people, the cards, and the game in general now because of reading a lot more about it in books and on this site.
Posted Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:57 pm GMT by The D-Train
i watched a lot of it instead of watching red sox slaughter. it was cool, but coulda been better if it wasn't JUST analysis. they coulda done a real poker corner with you know, pro player interviews, little poker related clips, like the nuts on the wsop. negreanu, annie, and hellmuth were cool though.
Posted Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:42 pm GMT by ChkDeezNuts
WPT night again....But NO POKER CORNER....WTF!!!!!!!!!!!
I love that show. 
Posted Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:21 am GMT by Matt T
| Quote: | | D-train: sorry bro, looks like the curse continues. I'm not really a Sox fan, unless they're playing the evil empire. |
Whoever said that is a maroon! Congrats D-train and any other Sox fans. I just loved watching the evil empire completely CHOKE!
Posted Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:19 pm GMT by The D-Train
Hells yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHO'S YOUR DADDY!
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:17 am GMT by Jables
Did this show get cancelled before it even got going? I saw one episode and it seemed staged and awkward.
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:26 pm GMT by JohnnyCache
Heh. The good natured ribbing I enjoyed the most was on the rounders commentary:
Hellmuth: "Originally this part was written for me, Johnny, then they gave it to you."
Chan:"I wonder why that is, Phil?"
And Ferguson:
"What's the difference between a large cheese pizza and a pro poker player? A large cheese pizza can feed a family of four."
I'd really like to see poker cornor continue, it has the potential to make up for the jackass commentary during some of the poker broadcasts...but the network put it on during two ballgames and then complained about ratings ... it's on the edge of limbo, so be public with your good opinion if you liked it.
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:21 pm GMT by Leo
| Nut Flush wrote: |
Who knows, maybe it will create some drama between the pros. |
there's already drama between the pros, duke and negranue are beefing if i remember correctly. and of course negranue and lederer cus he gotta stick up for his sis.
EDIT: i really gotta start reading through the whole thread before i post.
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