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how to calculate side pots??



Posted Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:08 pm GMT by sneakyimp
hey:

I'm totally confused about how to figure the size of a side pot. when someone goes all-in and there are higher bets, side pots are created. do you calculate the size of the side pot at the moment someone goes all-in or do you wait til the end of the round of betting? and what do you do in this case?

player 1 (SB): 5
player 2 (BB): 10
player 3: all-in with 30
player 4: raises to 60
player 5: calls 60

player 1: folds
player 2: raises to 100
player 3: (all-in on previous round)
player 4: folds:
player 5: calls 100

what kind of side pots do you have?? i'm guessing that player 3 is eligible to win no more than 30 from each bettor...so side pot 1 would be:

player 1: 5
player 2: 30 (leaving 70 for other pot)
player 3: 30
player 4: 30
player 5: 30

and the other pot is
player 1: 0
player 2: 70
player 3: 0
player 4: 30 (equal to 60 minus 30)
player 5: 70


do i have that right? is there any easy rule of thumb to use? is it possible to calculate the side pots after all the betting is done or do you need to somehow keep track of exactly when someone went all-in??

your help would be much much appreciated.


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Posted Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:09 am GMT by Nut Flush
Easiest thing to do is wait for the round of betting to finish. Once everyone is done betting, you take the guys chips that went all in and see how much it is. Then match his stack from the remaining players chips and put that aside, thats your main pot. All you have to remeber is you can't win more than you bet. So if someone goes all in for 60, sonebody raises and another guy calls, the most the short stack can win from this pot is 180. So you take the 180 and thats the main pot. Anything left over and any subsequent betting is a side pot created for the two ramining players.

So in your example, the guy that went all in can only win 125 chips from that pot. You take his 30, and 30 from anybody that betted that round plus the small blind of 5 and put that aside. Remeber, this is the main pot, not the side pot. Anything left is put into the side pot for the two remaining players.

Also remember, if you fold, you are no longer eligible to win any pot. So even though Player 4 raised to 60 but folded when it got reraised to 100, he is no longer eligible for the main pot because he folded. Even though he had the all in covered, once you fold you're out.



Posted Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:17 pm GMT by sneakyimp
that helps a LOT!

thanks.






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