Calculating Odds at the table? |
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Posted Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:40 pm GMT by Celestialegends
Hello. Well first off, I'm a relatively new player, though I'm trying to get better. I've been reading both Sklansky's books, (havn't finished either,) and though I think I have a pretty good understanding of the theory behind the odds, but there has been just one problem: Figuring out the odds at the table takes too much time.
I play mostly online, and most players play and a relatively fast pace. While sitting there and calculating the odds for 10 seconds might give a bad impression, it's worst that if you think too long, your hand is automatically folded.
How do you overcome this problem? Do you memorize the most common odds, or does recognising the odds become natural over time?
(I usually figure out the number of odds to the number of cards, and I try to get to a X to 1 ratio, same with pot odds to compare the two. If I wanted to figure in implied odds as well, the time gets a little excessive. Or am I just letting pressure from other players influence my playing speed?)
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Posted Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:03 pm GMT by Geno
A quick odds answer directly after the flop is to add up your outs, double that and add 2. For example, you flop 4 to a flush, u have 9 outs so your odds are roughly ((9x2)+2) which is 20%. Obiovusly the pot odds are easy to work out and then u can quickly compare the two.
As you get more experienced, you will know almost instantly whether a drawing hand is worth calling or not. If you remember that an up-and-down straight draw and flopping 4 to a flush are about 5 to 1 and a gutshot straight draw is about 13 to 1 you will be doing ok 
Posted Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:25 pm GMT by Celestialegends
Thanks alot!
The shortcut helped alot, made it much easier to figure most of the odds out. I still have trouble since sometimes I know the chances of me drawing an out, while the pot odds are in ratio in my mind, but other than that it was very helpful ^_^
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