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Custom Artwork Question



Posted Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:35 pm GMT by jalsing
Hi all,

I'm in the process of designing my own poker chip, uncertain right now whether it'll be full face chipco style, inlay a-la pokerchips.com or an aftermarket label. My design has graphics, text, and a textured background.

My question, is, what size should I mock up the design? Right now, it's a photoshop drawing about 10 inches diameter, font size being about a 72. Is this way too big when submitted for printing? Should I resize it to 39mm or let Chipco, etc. do that? Needless to say, my home inkjet printer doesn't do them justice when I print it out chip-sized, you can hardly read the text, I'm assuming professional equipment would get superior results. Should I only submit the art, and let the text be put on by chipco/pokerchips.com/etc?

Just any advice you guys might have would be appreciated, in regards to any aspect of custom designing.

Thanks,

Jason


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Posted Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:00 am GMT by Boomer
If you go with pokerchips.com, just email them your artwork. They'll do all the work and send you a proof. I don't know about any other company.


Posted Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:27 am GMT by tabascojrc
Your document should be 39mm at 300dpi
of course it would never really hurt to design larger than that. You can always resize down with out a hitch, but never up. Also you can change the print setting in photoshop to pring the chip a little larger.

BTW chipco is going to take and completely redo your art if it is in photoshop anyway.

-Jeremy



Posted Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:51 am GMT by Hoefler
Kardwell, casinocom, and TR King all told me not to scale the image down to 39mm and 300 dpi. They all preferred a larger, higher resolution graphic in either an encapsulated post script file, .eps, or .jpg with .eps being preffered (I sent both). They also wanted CYMK color instead of RGB. I actually sent a cd with my images sized at 5 in and 600 dpi (might have been a little extreme, but you get the point). My border was black, so they had to add area around the outside so that I didn't have a white ring around my black bordered artwork. They didn't have any trouble adding this. They also made my font a little bigger after printing some proofs. Hope this helps.


Posted Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:50 am GMT by tabascojrc
If you are working with your image in photoshop go into the image size and click constrain proportions and do not resample image. then type 300 in th dpi field. if your printsize comes out less than 39mm you are in trouble. And that is a minimum. obvioulsly according to Hoefler you will want it even bigger than that for the companies he mentioned.

If you are working purley in a vector program none of this really matters as it can be size at free will with no loss of quality. not counting imported raster graphics.



Posted Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:36 am GMT by warewulf619
Can the images be drawn and then scanned? I was thinking of having a tatoo artist draw something. He doesn't know any computer programs, just knows how to draw.

warewulf



Posted Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:03 pm GMT by Iron Butt
warewulf619 wrote:
Can the images be drawn and then scanned? I was thinking of having a tatoo artist draw something. He doesn't know any computer programs, just knows how to draw.

warewulf


Sure. In that situation you have to clean it up though, carefully either masking the design and/or replacing the background color with pure white or whatever you want, and removing anything either extraneous to the design or that doesn't read well at your target size. Scan at high resolution too, like if your target DPI is 300 scan at 600 or even 1200. In resizing you lose some detail but should keep anything that's going to read at poker chip size anyway, and it can have the effect of doing a lot of the cleanup work for you.

If I was seriously getting custom chips the first thing I'd do is get in touch with the vendor and get their design specs, they should be happy to give them to you. There are many format possiblilities as noted.

I'm sure we'd all like to see you guys' designs, post 'em if ya got 'em.



Posted Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:17 pm GMT by tabascojrc
warewulf619 wrote:
Can the images be drawn and then scanned? I was thinking of having a tatoo artist draw something. He doesn't know any computer programs, just knows how to draw.

warewulf


Like Iron said, it would take cleaning up.
I would probably scan it and redraw the whole thing (tracing style) in a vector program.






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