Ordered Vineyard Casino sample |
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Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:27 am GMT by Zion007
I'm in the military, so I don't make much, but I HAD to order a sample on e-bay. I'm deployed right now, and brought some samples with me to shuffle while I play and show to some friends. These are gorgeous! Out of my price range, for the most part, but beautiful.
I will try and order them in sets of 100 if I can afford it, and try and put a set together. Does anyone have any of these? How do you like them?
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Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:11 pm GMT by warewulf619
Very nice chips, but DAMN expensive! I was considering a set of these but decided against it when I saw how much I would have to pay. These are running $1.70 - $2.50 per chip!
Look at this one, pretty typical: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6127617536&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
warewulf
Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:57 pm GMT by Guest
Nice chips if you are a collector, but do you really need $1,$2 and$3 chips.
Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:57 pm GMT by Zion007
I was looking at that set last night. Very steep. I love the chips, though. I need to start winning some card games if I'm going to be able to afford them, because DAMN that's a lot of money!
With my luck, I'll get them and then they'll start selling custom chips to the public again.
Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:59 pm GMT by Zion007
I was looking at that set last night. Very steep. I love the chips, though. I need to start winning some card games if I'm going to be able to afford them, because DAMN that's a lot of money!
With my luck, I'll get them and then they'll start selling custom chips to the public again.
Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:01 pm GMT by Fat Tony
i really like the look of these chips, but i just can't justify the cost.
Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:36 pm GMT by PaulsonChips
I know these chips cost a lot but, you get what you pay for! There isnt another set RETIRED CASINO that is still in uncirculated condition that I know of made by paulson available in custom sets like this.
Like John from Pokerchipreviews said, people claim that thier chips are like/similar to casino chips. Well, these ARE REAL CASINO CHIPS!
I am getting 5000 of the Paulson Casino De Isthmus chips in today, and the prices on these will be even higher than the Vineyards! 
Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:39 pm GMT by PaulsonChips
| Zion007 wrote: |
With my luck, I'll get them and then they'll start selling custom chips to the public again. |
No need to worry about the Zion, Paulson says there are no plans in doing so right now.
And even if they do, the new chips will be different from these Vineyards because chip makers do not use the same process in making home chips and
casino chips.
So what you get will always be rare and valuable. :D
Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:12 pm GMT by Guest
| PaulsonChips wrote: | I know these chips cost a lot but, you get what you pay for! There isnt another set RETIRED CASINO that is still in uncirculated condition that I know of made by paulson available in custom sets like this.
Like John from Pokerchipreviews said, people claim that thier chips are like/similar to casino chips. Well, these ARE REAL CASINO CHIPS!
I am getting 5000 of the Paulson Casino De Isthmus chips in today, and the prices on these will be even higher than the Vineyards! |
Are those from a real casino 
Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:55 pm GMT by ncskiier
There's a set on there now
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3849524097&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:22 pm GMT by Fat Tony
i didn't say these chips weren't worth it, i just said that i can't justify the cost........for me.
Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:36 pm GMT by pokerchipreviews
Yeah...these chips don't come cheap by any means, but they almost fall under one of those 'If you have to ask the price....' kind of things.
They are *awesome* chips IMHO. The slight extra weight over the other home-use clays is subtle, but noticable. The graphics are cool. The edge spots are cooler. Quality is second to none. I am very seriously considering a set of these as an X-Mas present to myself. We'll have to see. I've got to play with a lot of neat chips because of my site, and these are right up there at the tip-top of my fun factor list.
(And no...I don't get paid to say any of this stuff.)
Cheers,
John
www.pokerchipreviews.com
Posted Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:59 pm GMT by Guest
They're from a fancy California cardroom that folded in about 6 months.
| Anonymous wrote: |
Are those from a real casino |
Posted Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:30 am GMT by Zion007
How many of these chips do you have? It may take me a few months to save/win money to afford any or enough to play with. E-mail me if you get a chance. I got all of the pictures you e-mailed to me and WOW!!! They look even better stacked up together. My co-workers were also very impressed...
Posted Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:03 am GMT by dice702
Check out this auction for real Paulson Chips from the Horseshoe.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=63758&item=6127384793&rd=1
Posted Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:53 am GMT by warewulf619
Do they still make those .25 chips? Are these all valid chips that can be cashed in?
warewulf
Posted Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:03 am GMT by DICE702
The $1 & $2 can still be cashed in. The $.25 are not made anymore. The Horesehoe used to be famous for a $.25 Craps game. Of course Harrahs ruined that.
Posted Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:26 am GMT by PaulsonChips
We should be out of the $20's by the end of the month. The rest of the denominations will be around for at least 3 more months.
We just got the Paulson Isthmus chips in, but again, these go for more than the Vineyards.
I prefer the Isthmus over the Vineyards, I like the classic look better, but the overall feel of the chip, Vineyards are unbeatable by any chip.
Posted Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:54 am GMT by chip-addict
20 James Bond chips for $50!!! WOW. I was planning to buy these a little at a time but the price is quickly becoming out of my reach. Why do the "other" guys make their chips so much lighter than the paulson chips? I have a full set of Blue Chip Co. James Bond chips and if they were a little heavier I would have be much happier.
Posted Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:24 pm GMT by warewulf619
I'm pretty sure it's because of counterfitting. Until another company steps up and makes similar chips, the blue chip ones will probably remain lighter. They also appear to not be as strong, I was able to snap one of the James Bond chips in half with little effort.
warewulf
Posted Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:55 pm GMT by PaulsonChips
Blue Chip reserves thier heavier chips for Casinos. They use a different composition for home chips.
This was one of the reasons Paulson stopped selling to the public. They didnt want to have 2 types of chips. Paulsons home chips are almost identical to casino chips.
I have to admit that the Paulson Isthmus chips are priced very high. However, just after ONE day of listing, I have serveral offers to buy my entire lot! So tommorrow all the listings for the Paulson Isthmus chips may be down! 
Posted Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:00 pm GMT by MeridianFC
| PaulsonChips wrote: |
This was one of the reasons Paulson stopped selling to the public. They didnt want to have 2 types of chips. Paulsons home chips are almost identical to casino chips.
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I can confirm this. I've been using a set of edge spoted hot stamped Paulsons for about 7 years and they are heavy mofos. They're certainly the nicest chips I've ever encountered. I am looking for new chips, which I won't get into (check the post on ASM v. TRK) up or down there.
Hey, PaulsonChips I finally signed up for this place!
K.
Posted Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:45 pm GMT by warewulf619
| DICE702 wrote: | | The $1 & $2 can still be cashed in. The $.25 are not made anymore. The Horesehoe used to be famous for a $.25 Craps game. Of course Harrahs ruined that. |
Does anyone make .25 cent chips anymore? I'm going to Vegas soon and am thinking about picking up .25 (if anyone has them), .50 and $1 chips.
warewulf
Posted Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:09 am GMT by PaulsonChips
Hey Zion,
Did you receive the samples of the Vineyards yet?
Posted Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:52 am GMT by dice702
Several downtown casinos still use $.25 chips. The problem is the only way to get the chips is to play and win the games. The cage will no longer sell low denomination chips to the public.
Here is one of my favorites.
www.apachepokerchips.com
Posted Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:26 am GMT by Guest
PC,
My wife has received them at home. She is mailing them to me. I am on a Navy ship right now, so will have to wait some time before I get them.
Internet is so slow, I can't even log in here!
Posted Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:29 am GMT by Guest
PC,
My wife has received them at home. She is mailing them to me. I am on a Navy ship right now, so will have to wait some time before I get them.
Internet is so slow, I can't even log in here!
Posted Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:44 am GMT by ashVID
These prices are just stupid. Right now will be the highest these will ever go for. With poker at an all time popularity the supply for high-end chips is far below the demand. That will change. 2 Years ago you could get the Isthmus Paulsons for under $0.50 a chip, 2 WEEKS ago I saw someone selling FULL SETS of Vineyards for $1.25 - $1.40 a chip. $2 - $3 a chip is silly. There will be some very high end chips hit the market for sub $0.50 in the near future. The fact that the price for these Paulson sets has doubled or tripled in the last couple months is silly IMHO
ash =o)
Posted Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:11 am GMT by Guest
How would you know that?
However, IF Paulson were to just sell chips with their logo on it, they'd make a TON of money.
Posted Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:37 pm GMT by warewulf619
| ashVID wrote: | These prices are just stupid. Right now will be the highest these will ever go for. With poker at an all time popularity the supply for high-end chips is far below the demand. That will change. 2 Years ago you could get the Isthmus Paulsons for under $0.50 a chip, 2 WEEKS ago I saw someone selling FULL SETS of Vineyards for $1.25 - $1.40 a chip. $2 - $3 a chip is silly. There will be some very high end chips hit the market for sub $0.50 in the near future. The fact that the price for these Paulson sets has doubled or tripled in the last couple months is silly IMHO
ash =o) |
I think he's right -- the demand is definitely exceeding the supply. With the surge of people starting to play Poker, I think somewhat connected to them showing it on TV so much, I think the market is just begging for more competition. If someone came out with a chip line similar to Paulson in look, feel, and WEIGHT, they would make a killing.
warewulf
Posted Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:41 pm GMT by PaulsonChips
Even if Paulson were to start making chips again, they will make thier homeline different from the Casino line.
This was the reason Paulson stopped selling chips to the public because they didnt want to make 2 seperate lines.
If you look at Blue Chip's chips, their homeline is lighter than the casino chips that they make, if you don't belive me, CALL DAVE ENDY! NJ clays, and BPC.com's chips are not casino quality. (Dont get me wrong I love NJ Clays)
This will be the same of Paulson, they will differentiate thier chips for the protection of the Casinos.
Paulson again, now has no plans of selling chips to the public, so you guys better buy now because the supply is just getting lower and lower while the demand is skyrocketing.
To the comment that the market has "peaked" that is not true. I own a company that sells "cheap chips 11.5g/9g plastic" and I see that the transition is that there are 2 markets, the insurgent of NEW players that buy the cheap stuff, and then there are the players who are transitioning to the new higher end chips.
Once a player touches a clay chip, the clink of a 11.5 chip will drive them nuts, again, this in NOT speculation as I have financial reports to support this!
We sell to Costco and Sams club, and the volume of the orders keep increasing.
Again, I am speaking from a players point of view and not a business owner. I personally would not touch the chips from my own company because I would play with nothing than the real chips. I started this side business of selling clay chips because of my own infactuation with clay chips. :D
Posted Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:50 pm GMT by warewulf619
Selling to Costco and Walmart supports my theory that one day there will be a chip dispoasal crisis. There will probably soon be about 5 sets of chips for every 1 person that plays. As people upgrade to higher quality, eventually there will be no place for the old, less expensive chips. Maybe people will start building houses out of used chips! 
warewulf
Posted Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:02 pm GMT by PaulsonChips
If there are "tons of used cheap chips" that would further confirm my evaluation that the Paulson chips will be worth MORE, as the demand for the chips will rise because there will be more people in the market for higher end chips while the supply of Paulsons can only decrease and/or stay the same with will make the price shift into a higher bracket.
Buying poker chips is still a "niche" market, and this large influx of new buyers can only boost the prices of the authentic clay chips.
Even though many people complain my prices are "high", I am still selling over 10,000 chips month!
Remember, people used to complain about NJ's "high" price of 1.10 a chip!
Now because of the high influx, the 1.10 has all of a sudden become reasonable.
Think back to when you first started buying chips. Didnt you feel that ".50" was to much to pay for ONE chip? I think we all did. The more we learn about chips and the difference that we see, things change. Now 1.50 a chip has because a price to consider. :D
Posted Wed Nov 10, 2004 2:09 pm GMT by warewulf619
Yup, I agree on some levels. 15 years ago when I could barely afford my diamond hot stamped chips at .20 each w/o hotstamping I remember looking at the "soprano" chips that were .50 and thinking about how maybe someday I could afford those!
As far as Paulsons keep going up, I think to some degree it will level out when some other companys spring up over time with equal or better chips for the home market. The market is definitely begging for something closer to the Paulsons. Blue Chip are decent, but definitely not a contender.
warewulf
Posted Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:33 pm GMT by Zion007
Great thread. Since I can't afford a set, I will enjoy playing with the samples I have ordered. I only wish I'd gotten into this sooner!!!
Posted Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:37 am GMT by PaulsonChips
Hey Zion, have you received your samples yet?
Posted Mon Nov 15, 2004 1:59 am GMT by Zion007
Not yet, bro. I'm still at sea, and it takes a long time for us to receive mail. I can't wait, though!
Posted Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:31 pm GMT by Guest
It's good to see that PaulsonChips & vontar5 are in cahoots on ebay driving the prices of the Vineyards chips up. It wouldn't be doubtful that they're one and the same. Both use same images for the individual chips. PaulsonChips even won an auction by vontar5. Now both on their store prices are very much the same. If this is not some kind price fixing, I don't know what is. I'm gonna probably report both to Ebay and get him banned.
Posted Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:57 pm GMT by PaulsonChips
How dare you make such accusations. We both share the same lot of chips that were originally from the Vineyard casino. However, we each have our collection. He has most of the $500 chips while I took the $10's and $25's.
I purchased that auction from him because those chips were new chips I wanted for my own collection. I am out of new $1, $2 , and $3 chips.
Go ahead and report it to Ebay. Everything is legit.
You sound like someone that I have conversed with before......
Again with the "guest" label....... Big words, small man.
Posted Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:13 am GMT by drinkup
| Anonymous wrote: | | It's good to see that PaulsonChips & vontar5 are in cahoots on ebay driving the prices of the Vineyards chips up. It wouldn't be doubtful that they're one and the same. Both use same images for the individual chips. PaulsonChips even won an auction by vontar5. Now both on their store prices are very much the same. If this is not some kind price fixing, I don't know what is. I'm gonna probably report both to Ebay and get him banned. |
Paulson and Vontar are definitely two different people. I have gotten quotes from both, and their prices vary.
I agree that the prices have been driven up (and I hate it), but if you had the chips wouldn't you sell them for all they would bring?
BTW, step out from behind the shadows and log in 
Posted Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:19 am GMT by PaulsonChips
Thanks drink up!
BTW, the reason I am driving the prices up is because I am almost out of chips. I have been averaging just over 10,000 chips a month, and in December alone because of Xmas, 35,000 chips!
The fact that I am the only seller with an "unlimited supply" of these chips have been keeping the prices "low". Take for instance, once Im out of the $10's ($30+ a chip) the prices go nuts. Once Im out of the $20's ($8+ a chip), they go nuts.
Now my old customers are cashing out by reselling them online. Good for them! (Some times I have to buy my own chips back!)
Posted Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:27 am GMT by ChkDeezNuts
Last time I checked...we live in a capitalist society.......Paulsonchips is SUPPOSED to try to make money.....what? Should he be trying to lose money?
Hey...maybe YOU should have bought that Lot of Vineyard Chips...then you would be making that money.......
BTW......in 1994....I got a quote from Paulson for 5000 custom chips at 45 cents..I thought they were expensive...  ...go figure.....
When they invent a time machine...I am gonna cash in......
Posted Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:48 pm GMT by ott
Yup, it's a capitalist society. If there's price fixing, then it should be dealt with accordingly. I don't know if he did or didn't, everyone is entitle to their opinion.
I'll be waiting in line for the time machine also. All they need to figure out is the flux capacitor and the 1.21 gigawatt of electricity.
Posted Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:59 am GMT by drinkup
| ott wrote: | Yup, it's a capitalist society. If there's price fixing, then it should be dealt with accordingly.
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I am not affiliated with the person in question, in any way.
With that stated-------WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!!!!
How should price fixing be dealt with?????? Is it against the law??????
Is it immoral???? Let me help you here, the answers are no and NO.
Should pawn shops and antique stores all across America be "dealt with"?
I'm sorry, but I buy chips low and try to sell them for whatever I can get for them. Paulson has done nothing more than that and the "GUEST" who started this was just pissed that he or she could not get the chips as cheap as they would have liked to. Or, they were jealous that he is turning a profit.
It takes money to survive and if it can be made by doing something you enjoy, then by all means do it.
BTW you can check to see that I have not bought or sold to paulsonchips(other than 1 chip sample), or vontar by checking my feedback on e-bay. Ronny427
Posted Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:07 am GMT by PaulsonChips
I dont get whats the big deal with my prices. Nevada Jacks and BPC are selling their chips for 1.20-1.50 a chip. These are home made chips by Blue chip and have a unlimited supply.
The Vineyards are 1; Paulsons, 2: Real casino chips: 3: Almost gone. People were complaing at 1.70 a chip which I think is a steal compared to the other clay chips out there.
The other Paulson home chips out there on Ebay are 2.50+!
When it really comes down to it, if you cant afford it or think the prices is not right.... DONT BUY IT! You will be the ones kicking yourselves in the heads when these are 3.00 each when I stop selling them!
STOP WHINING!
Posted Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:08 am GMT by PaulsonChips
Lets all stop the arguments and start talkin about chips!
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