Posted Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:39 pm GMT by krakajak
WARNING: If you haven't seen it, don't read this, as I will give much of it away.
Anyway, I've seen it 4 times, and I almost never see a movie more than once, so I guess that says how much I liked it. Still, there were several cheesey details that bugged me.
First, the judge's game. To me it was just really contrived. First, the whole way it went down. I went to law school, and students give professors a great amount of deference. Touching another man's stack is a cardinal sin, and no law student would ever but into a game, full of judges he hoped to clerk for, and start throwing down his professor's chips. That would never, ever hapen. I would've liked it better if he had simply told his professor what to do, instead of actually acting for him.
Also, I think they over-did it by having him read three player's hands. One player's hand is doable. Two players takes a hell of a lot of skill. Three players, it's not even believable.
Then, when he gets that check from the professor, and goes to a check-cashing place and cashes it. Check-cashing joints don't cash personal checks.
KGB's Oreo tell: I don't see any player of KGB's caliber having such an obvious tell. They should've made it something more subtle.
Finally, the mini-fit Grandma throws after Mike beats KGB. Grandma knows that Mike just vouched for the wrong guy, and when Mike visits Grandma by himself, it seems like Grandma might be willing to cut Mike some slack if he could be sure that he wasn't being conned. He has no beef with Mike, so he should be glad when Mike wins, because he's getting paid.
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Posted Sat Nov 13, 2004 5:05 pm GMT by MasterShake
First - But it was a cool scene, which is what you want in a movie.
Second - It might have been a check from some kind of business account or something like that or they may have just needed to show him getting money quick and it fit with the movie.
Third - You're average moviegoer needs to be shown things in an obvious manner in order to get it and not be confused. They had to sacrifice realism in order to keep a good chunk of the audience involved.
Fourth - Only thing I can think of is that Grandma was pissed he didn't get to bust the shit out of Worm. Or he might be pissed that his boss just lost a ton of money. Job security and all that.
Long story short, it was a movie and it's going to have holes in it. It won't be perfect. You have a limited budget and a limited amount of time to put these things together, and it's not always enough to fix your mistakes. I've met some Star Wars fans that can just ruin a movie completely by pointing out every minor detail.
The point of a movie is to be fun. Guys like us know a little more about the subject matter than most and it's easy to pick it apart. You have to just have fun with it and enjoy what's a great movie. :D
Posted Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:00 pm GMT by JohnnyCache
Grama's pissed because he was going to keep worm's interest, and now mike's going to hand it to KGB. He's also pissed off because the thing he set up with KGB went south on him, so he'll probably lose a great deal of favor...and because he thought his man would win...sure, he isn't going to show a loss, but he still...lost.
Mike's better then normal - that's the point. That's like saying "Any Given Sunday would be more believable if the players weren't so good at football"
Mike doesn't belong in law school - he DOESN'T show the judges the proper deference, that's why he impressess them. The asskissing and cronism is one reason I *didn't* go to lawschool, though, so I concede it's atypical behavior all right...but the guy does loan him ten grand later, so they seem to have had a close relationship...
The check cashing - - I had several collection clients that were check cashers, and many of them did take personal checks. What's not real about that bit is finding some place that'll take a 10k check and give you 10k back - you'd be lucky to get seven. But I ignored that, because I figure if you're playing that kind of poker all the time, you build some relationships that let you skirt those hurdles a bit...
And if you put a poker tell in a movie, it has to be obvious, or the audience can't delight in jumping to the conclusion along with the player - although so many more people play poker now then did when rounders was made, that might not be true.
The movie definately has some leaps of faith in it, but they make it an underground poker story instead of a poker story...I think it's Ed Norton who says in the commentary, "Researching this movie, I was supprised to find that this world actually existed to a degree...at least before Guiliani."
Posted Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:18 pm GMT by iSellJerseyShore
I love "Rounders" I just watched it again the other night while I was playing on Party Poker!
Posted Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:17 pm GMT by JohnnyCache
Watch it with the chan/hellmuth/ferguson commentary going...
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Posted Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:56 am GMT by krazyace5
1st he seemed like he was really good friends with the judge.
the hand reading was for dramatics so the movie appealed to non poker players as well.
The professor tells him to go to a friends of his to cash the check.
Again with the KGB tell, it was for non poker playing audience to enjoy. They would not notice a more subtle tell.
Gramma was a douche bag.
Posted Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:10 am GMT by IndianaChris
Of the three my friends that I regularly play cards with, not one of them could point out Teddy's tell.
Posted Sat Jan 15, 2005 7:14 am GMT by fonzerelli_79
i could tell the KGB liked biscuits 
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