Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:46 pm GMT by coveyj
I make custom poker tables. Email me if you are interested and I will send you a flyer. Good prices and high quality custom tables.
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Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:55 pm GMT by MasterShake
| coveyj wrote: | | I make custom poker tables. Email me if you are interested and I will send you a flyer. Good prices and high quality custom tables. |
You've got to ask an admin before advertising buddy.
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:04 pm GMT by Fortitude253
A guy simply saying he makes custom tables and to IM him for a quote you are going to call advertising?? I think not, buddy.
Had this guy come on here and posted a link to his website selling the cheapo folding tables you see all over eBay along with a bajillion different dice type chips, then that would be spamming. But to simply say email me, nahhh... I didn't notice on my first read, but this guy DOES need to register before posting.
I think he should post in what area he's building for. Not that I'm interested, but others may but not want shipping or freight charges.
Btw, I make custom tables too!  So if you're interested and in/near the Seattle area, IM me here... I'm not as fancy as this other guy; I don't have a flyer.
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:40 pm GMT by MasterShake
| Fortitude253 wrote: | A guy simply saying he makes custom tables and to IM him for a quote you are going to call advertising?? I think not, buddy.
Had this guy come on here and posted a link to his website selling the cheapo folding tables you see all over eBay along with a bajillion different dice type chips, then that would be spamming. But to simply say email me, nahhh... I didn't notice on my first read, but this guy DOES need to register before posting.
I think he should post in what area he's building for. Not that I'm interested, but others may but not want shipping or freight charges.
Btw, I make custom tables too! So if you're interested and in/near the Seattle area, IM me here... I'm not as fancy as this other guy; I don't have a flyer. |
He (and apparantly you as well) is trying to sell something using this site to make money for himself. What would you call it? It is AT THE VERY LEAST, polite to check with the owner of the site first.
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:50 pm GMT by Fortitude253
No, I don't sell tables. I build them. :D If someone cares to not make their own, surely someone offering that service can't be that big of a deal to you. As for the forum guidelines, I'm quite certain they are referring to links. But if offering to build a table for someone who may be looking for just that very thing is a problem, by all means, let me move on.
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:47 pm GMT by MasterShake
| Fortitude253 wrote: | | No, I don't sell tables. I build them. :D If someone cares to not make their own, surely someone offering that service can't be that big of a deal to you. As for the forum guidelines, I'm quite certain they are referring to links. But if offering to build a table for someone who may be looking for just that very thing is a problem, by all means, let me move on. |
You're missing the point. Don't you think it would be nice to ask them first in a PM?
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:28 pm GMT by Fortitude253
Uhh, we're not nice guys tho... Added, I've been around long enough to know it's kewl...
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:33 pm GMT by Fat Tony
| Fortitude253 wrote: | | Uhh, we're not nice guys tho... Added, I've been around long enough to know it's kewl... |
i guess you haven't been around as long as you thought. it's definitely not cool, no advertising is permitted. feel free to contact me if you have any questions regarding this policy.
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:52 pm GMT by Fortitude253
| Fat Tony wrote: | | i guess you haven't been around as long as you thought. it's definitely not cool, no advertising is permitted. feel free to contact me if you have any questions regarding this policy. |
Actually, I have. If I had the time, I'd go quote a bajillion advertising posts that were ignored or even encouraged. Don't get hypocritical with us. What you're saying is it's ok for some but not others.
I'm a big MSpatton fan. I like his product, services and his in depth knowledge as much as any of you. But to say it's ok for him (and many others, not picking on ya MSP) to plaster his website all over the forum and not for me and Johnny Nobody about something as simple and vague as building a poker table is just wrong.
I've stated my peace. If I seem wrong, I'm sorry. But I've lost a bit of respect for this group...
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:59 pm GMT by ORGrinder
patton is also an active member of this community... the thread starter here was... apparently... not.
big difference there pal.
and if i know patton... he made sure it was kewl to post/say something before he did.
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:07 pm GMT by MasterShake
| ORGrinder wrote: | patton is also an active member of this community... the thread starter here was... apparently... not.
big difference there pal.
and if i know patton... he made sure it was kewl to post/say something before he did. |
Which brings me back to my original point. J-u-s-t a-s-k f-i-r-s-t.
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:09 pm GMT by ORGrinder
HEHEHE
Posted Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:31 pm GMT by Fat Tony
i don't really give a crap what you can or can't quote. there is a no advertising rule in place and that's that. certain exceptions have been made on occasion WHEN SOMEONE HAS ASKED IF IT'S OK FIRST. admins/mods have the latitude on any forum i've ever been a part of to grant such exceptions ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. so really you shouldn't be throwing words like "hypocritical" around when you are not in possesion of all the facts. plus, the thread starter isn't even a member of this forum, he posted as a "guest" so i really don't see what your beef is.
Posted Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:02 am GMT by Fortitude253
| Fat Tony wrote: | | there is a no advertising rule in place and that's that. |
| Fat Tony wrote: | | certain exceptions have been made on occasion WHEN SOMEONE HAS ASKED IF IT'S OK FIRST. admins/mods have the latitude on any forum i've ever been a part of to grant such exceptions ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. so really you shouldn't be throwing words like "hypocritical" around when you are not in possesion of all the facts. plus, the thread starter isn't even a member of this forum, he posted as a "guest" so i really don't see what your beef is. |
I'm sorry, that isn't that. You say there is a no advertising rule in place and "that's that"... To me, that means follow the rules... Then you go on and say that there have been exceptions made, but as I remember, those were made AFTER good information was followed up by his advertisement; case being made, he had a lot of input. I understand and do not disagree with this. But it is beyond your rules and you have taken a hypocritical stand by allowing some people to advertise and others not, asking or not.
I'm only trying to point out that I do not agree with this practice. No, I understand you're not going to loose sleep over my disappointment.
I conceed. No need in my arguing this with you guys. I'm not here to advertise anyway. My beef is simply I dispise hypocrites because my father-in-law is one. And the simple fact that there is some advertising allowed when there are forum guidelines that prohibit such action is the epidome of "hypocritical".
Posted Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:26 am GMT by Fat Tony
obviously you have overlooked the we also have discretion to allow exceptions part of my post. these are not granted by whim, but for a specific reason in each case. you also did not deal with the fact that the OP is a freakin guest and not even a forum member. you have to consider the complete circumstances and not just some of them. it states right in the forum guidelines under advertising that "exceptions have and will be made" so i fail to see how it is hypocritical when this is stated right in the rules.
Posted Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:16 am GMT by Fortitude253
| Forum Guidelines wrote: |
Advertising
Woe is the webmaster who must delete such poker topics as "Buy Viagra Online" or "Barely Legal Teens!".
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Nope, we didn't break this one.
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- No posts that contain irrelevant links, non-poker related topics, or blatant advertising will be tolerated.
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Nope, I don't see that we broke this one either: See note.
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- "Blatant advertising" includes posting links to online poker rooms that have affiliate tags or promotional codes within them.
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None here. Just an email addy and an IM invite.
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- Unfortunately "Blatant advertising" also includes any topics that promote or defame any online poker room. I'm all for discussing the merits of certain rooms, but allowing that type of material opens the floodgates for would-be advertisers. (Exceptions have and will be made but please tread lightly)
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Oh, these exceptions you referred to are for defamation of a poker room, et al. Not relevant.
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- No posts that link to adult sites. Even if they they have some twisted poker theme.
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Bingo. None here.
As for the note, I don't feel as if his was a "blantant" advertisement. Ours is definitely of the poker topic variety. As I stated before, there are no links to some makeshift website in our posts. How much more lightly can we tread? I mean, I do have a phone number and an address I could have posted. But I understand that's beyond your threshold of acceptibility.
Again, I do agree this guy should be a registered user. Why you guys allow guests to post in the first place is beyond me. But it's not my place to debate the remainder of what I might consider administration shortcomings, including these "guidelines"... Unless asked.
Posted Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:35 am GMT by MasterShake
| Fortitude253 wrote: | | I conceed. No need in my arguing this with you guys. I'm not here to advertise anyway. My beef is simply I dispise hypocrites because my father-in-law is one. And the simple fact that there is some advertising allowed when there are forum guidelines that prohibit such action is the epidome of "hypocritical". |
Now we have some common ground. My dad is a pain in the ass who can't admit when he's wrong, so you can see why you're starting to get on my nerves.
Posted Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:35 pm GMT by Juliea344
| Forum Guidelines wrote: | - No offensive or aggressive language directed at a person for their views. Play nice.
- Also make an effort to not use language that would incite other posters to react in a nasty way.
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I was just going to stay out of this but since we're on the subject of "the rules", I was called a bitch the other day in here. I just wondered if the poster asked permission to do that first since it appears to be against the forum guidelines?
Posted Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:38 pm GMT by The Modfather
/me grabs a beer, sits back, and watches the show.
Posted Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:51 pm GMT by MasterShake
| Juliea344 wrote: | | Forum Guidelines wrote: | - No offensive or aggressive language directed at a person for their views. Play nice.
- Also make an effort to not use language that would incite other posters to react in a nasty way.
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I was just going to stay out of this but since we're on the subject of "the rules", I was called a bitch the other day in here. I just wondered if the poster asked permission to do that first since it appears to be against the forum guidelines? |
That is definitely not cool Julie. You should PM a link to the thread and the name of the poster who did it to Geno or whoever mods that forum..
Posted Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:27 pm GMT by Fortitude253
| MasterShake wrote: | | Now we have some common ground. My dad is a pain in the ass who can't admit when he's wrong, so you can see why you're starting to get on my nerves. |
I'm sorry, but I don't think we have anything in common. My dad wasn't a pain in the ass. Even still, but being a pain in the ass is not the definition of hypocrite. I can deal with pains in the ass (I'm here, eh? :D).
And no, I don't see why my points of view are getting onto your nerves.
Posted Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:42 pm GMT by madmark27
The people who have posted "acceptable" forms of advertising, did so in threads where the topic was brought up or a question was asked about where to purchase poker supplies or somebody wanted to know the difference between "brand X" and brand Y"'s poker chips, tables, ect.
This is much different from this guy, who just blantantly advertised himself, be it via e-mail, P.M., or link. It's still the same. Nobody asked where to get a table. Therefor his post, unless authorized by the powers that be, is considered spam.
Just ask permission first and everything will be cool. The Administrators who run this site, have the right to determine what belongs here and what does'nt. Does that make sense to you?
Posted Fri Nov 19, 2004 2:10 pm GMT by MasterShake
| Fortitude253 wrote: | | MasterShake wrote: | | Now we have some common ground. My dad is a pain in the ass who can't admit when he's wrong, so you can see why you're starting to get on my nerves. |
I'm sorry, but I don't think we have anything in common. My dad wasn't a pain in the ass. Even still, but being a pain in the ass is not the definition of hypocrite. I can deal with pains in the ass (I'm here, eh? :D).
And no, I don't see why my points of view are getting onto your nerves. |
The argument was starting to frustrate me because you appeared to be jumping over my explaination and I was being a bit of a smartass. You disagree. OK. Tony says ask first. Case closed.
Posted Fri Nov 19, 2004 3:02 pm GMT by drinkup
EVERYBODY JUST STOP, COUNT TO 10, AND BREATHE DEEPLY.
:D     :x :D
Posted Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:33 am GMT by Fortitude253
8..........9...........Zzzzzzzzzz 
Posted Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:09 pm GMT by Fat Tony
this is tiresome, WE interpret the rules, not you. if you wanna take this up with adam or carson, go ahead but i promise you that they are not going to allow it. don't bother getting your dictionary out and looking up blatant either, WE will make the determination of what is blatant advertising on this forum, not YOU.
Posted Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:27 pm GMT by Geno
Fortitude253 - read this and take heed cos I'll say it once and then if you continue to moan in this thread, you will find yourself in trouble. Clear? Good, read on:
Firstly, this whole thread was started by a guest who posted about making tables. He has no posting history here and so has absolutely no good faith to work on. Anything that remotely resembles advertising is clearly very wrong for an individual like this. If that is not clear, I am not sure what is.
Secondly, you then decided to get some piggy back advertising by replying with "Btw, I make custom tables too! So if you're interested and in/near the Seattle area, IM me here... I'm not as fancy as this other guy; I don't have a flyer." which makes you just about as bad.
Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly given all your follow up replies, the rules of this forum are open to interpretation by the moderators and admins. No set of rules can accurately govern each situation to the letter and so come common sense needs to be applied when assessing each item that requires attention. Like Fat Tony says, WE will make the determination of what is blatant advertising on this forum, not YOU.
It's amazing how often I end up having to justify the forum rules to people who have spammed - those who haven't seem to have no problem with them. Go figure.
Posted Sun Nov 21, 2004 2:31 pm GMT by Fat Tony
| Juliea344 wrote: | | Forum Guidelines wrote: | - No offensive or aggressive language directed at a person for their views. Play nice.
- Also make an effort to not use language that would incite other posters to react in a nasty way.
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I was just going to stay out of this but since we're on the subject of "the rules", I was called a bitch the other day in here. I just wondered if the poster asked permission to do that first since it appears to be against the forum guidelines? |
Julie, PM me with the particulars of this incident and i will deal with it.
Posted Sun Nov 21, 2004 3:41 pm GMT by Fortitude253
Not a problem, Geno. Being 40 years old, I'd probably enjoy a spanking... :D Just don't send me to my room without dinner.
Geno is a couple days late here. I was finished with this topic and was trying to lighten it up with a little humor (notice the wink?). But since you did finally chime in here, I feel compelled to reply to your post. Don't misinterpret this as "moaning"... To quell a point of view is not the American way.
I understand and have agreed this guy needed to be a registered user. Why do you guys allow guests and non registered users to post?
2nd, mine was more humor taking offense to MasterShakes 1st reply than an actual ad. I'm a guy who's built two tables for myself. Look out, I'm gonna make a million $ off your Seattle readers.
And finally, my replies have addressed important issues regarding your policy on advertising, for everyone, not just myself. I've not belittled, nor smash mouthed, anyone. If you've had to justify this so many times, wouldn't that indicate you need to calrify this within the guidelines? Common sense told me and so many like me that our type of post is ok (as per my long guideline quoted reply). As far as I could see, I am within the guidelines (Yes, I understand you're telling me I'm not). People who follow this forum, as I do, see all the favored advertising you allow from BUSINESSES; why wouldn't we think it was ok, as peons, to do same?
Btw, if it's going to boil down to "just ask Tony", then by all means, put that in the guidelines.
Posted Sun Nov 21, 2004 4:34 pm GMT by Fat Tony
| Quote: | | Btw, if it's going to boil down to "just ask Tony", then by all means, put that in the guidelines. |
nice try at passing off the blame to me, but i don't make policy i just enforce it. the guidelines allow us latitude to allow what we see fit and this has been explained to you, yet here we still are. i don't know what part of that you don't understand. also, on questionable stuff, Geno and I discuss it and come to a mutual decision on what action to take so your attempt at playing for sympathy from him is not going to work.
| Quote: | I understand and have agreed this guy needed to be a registered user. Why do you guys allow guests and non registered users to post?
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this is the first time you have acknowledged that as far as i know. as to why guests are allowed to post, you'll have to ask the admin as i agree that they should not be able to post.
| Quote: | | Common sense told me and so many like me that our type of post is ok. |
really?? then why did a few of the regulars jump on it right away and tell you that permission is required? if it was common sense as you claim, they would have agreed with you.
| Quote: | | Don't misinterpret this as "moaning"... |
well since you are saying that your lengthy post disagreeing with our policy once again is not moaning it MUST be true.
you have been told on numerous occasions now what the policy is. do not make us have to explain it to you again because i have had enough of it. Geno and I have discussed this from day 1 and are in full agreement.
Posted Sun Nov 21, 2004 5:06 pm GMT by Geno
Ok, this thread has gone easily far enough. I back Tony 100% on this issue so it's not up for discussion, in fact why is anyone even getting so excited over some guest stirring things up?
This thread adds nothing to the boards, it is barely poker related and it is tiresome so I am going to lock it up now. I do NOT want another one started - if it is started, that person will be banned for a week. If I hear of any PM attacks going on, that will also be met with the same result.
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