Posted Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:57 am GMT by gilesdm
I have started to play in a regular poker game and I keep getting beat. I am very new to the game and the guys i play against have been playing for a long time. I don’t mind losing to a better player but I was wondering if I could get some (strait forward) advice to improve my game. Don’t forget I am a total newbie.
The table is quite loose/aggressive and we generally play with 6 player.
1) So, realistically, what sort of hands should I be playing with?
2) Most of the other players will never fold a hand before seeing the flop, is this right?
Sorry for the total newbie questions.
Dan
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Posted Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:02 am GMT by Dave B
2 faces, 66 or better, 78 or better on suited connectors and Ax w/ in late position if you are only 6 handed.
Posted Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:21 am GMT by MasterShake
Play only premium hands and play them very aggressively. Don't slow play QQ, KK, or AA. Bet them hard. 3-5x the big blind. When you have a very good hand, don't double someone's bet. If someone bets you 200, don't raise 200, raise 600 or more. Don't play with hands like A4 or A6. They look good at first, but a bigger ace has you dominated. Same goes for small Kings Queens and Jacks.
Suited connectors (6/7, 9/10 etc. of the same suit) are highly overvalued by most beginners who don't understand how to play them. I usually fold suited connectors in early position (to the left of the dealer) but will sometimes call with them in middle position or late position (to the right of the dealer). You don't want to play these hands unless there are quite a few callers and you don't want to risk a lot of money with them before a flop. If you completely miss the flop you should probably fold when it gets to you unless it's free or extremely cheap to get another card OR if you have a lot of cards that can help you (ex. you have 89 of diamonds and the board has the 6 and 7 of diamonds on it giving you a straight and a flush draw and a straight flush draw.)
Posted Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:51 am GMT by galderon
| gilesdm wrote: |
The table is quite loose/aggressive and we generally play with 6 player.
1) So, realistically, what sort of hands should I be playing with?
2) Most of the other players will never fold a hand before seeing the flop, is this right?
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In general, it's best to play opposite of the rest of the table...play tight at a loose table and play more loose at a tight table. If the rest of the guys never fold pre-flop, then play as tight as hell. Play pairs, AK, AQ, and that's about it. It might get frustrating folding all the time, but eventually it should pay off.
Posted Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:53 am GMT by StarlightCoast
| Dave B wrote: | | 2 faces, 66 or better, 78 or better on suited connectors and Ax w/ in late position if you are only 6 handed. |
Your reply Dave brings up a question for me. In short handed ( 6 players or less ) I was under the impression that one should also be playing Qxs and Kxs. Also Qx and Kx if the kicker was decent, say 8 or 9. Is this not a wize move. Also what if it's a 5 person max table such as they have at Pokerroom. Does it make much of a difference. Also shouldn't you try to play any pocket pair in a short handed game? I mean 66 really is not great so is it really so much different than say 22 or 33 where in both cases your after trips on the flop. All comments by all are welcome.
Posted Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:15 pm GMT by MasterShake
There are two ways to play.
a) To win
b) To have fun.
Play to win, because when you do you realize that you had fun. :D
Posted Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:48 am GMT by gilesdm
Thats totally great info. I am playing tonight so I am going to play tight and see what happens.
thanks again.
Posted Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:03 am GMT by Dave B
the only reason I say 66 or better instead of all pocket pairs is that there is at least a chance that you wont flop the 4th pair.
5 handed, now 8 unknown cards in play instead of 10, so play 20% more hands. 6 handed I would play 40% of hands (most blinds and one other)-5 handed I would play about 50%.
Posted Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:39 am GMT by pm_french
| gilesdm wrote: | Thats totally great info. I am playing tonight so I am going to play tight and see what happens.
thanks again. |
You're going to lose again - that's what's going to happen :D
Posted Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:40 am GMT by gilesdm
whatever paul! how many time you won?
Posted Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:43 am GMT by dakine
| gilesdm wrote: | Thats totally great info. I am playing tonight so I am going to play tight and see what happens.
thanks again. |
What kind of Poker game(s) are you playing? Did it ever come to your mind to buy a book on Poker? Like, "Fundamentals of Poker" by Mason Malmuth and Lynne Loomis? If you're playing "Hold-Em", I suggest "Winning Low Limit Hold'Em" by Lee Jones. Of course there are other books, but try the two that I suggested, and "Kick Butt."
"It aint over 'till the river."
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