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3-way showdown ends the game, who wins 2nd place?



Posted Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:00 pm GMT by cyberspector
Greetings all! My friends and I have been playing no-limit hold 'em home games for about a year now. Recently we were confused who should win second place. I'll now explain the details.

Pre-game it was agreed that second place would win the buy-in amount, $5.00, and first would win the rest. The players' total chip values are estimated - they are precise enough. Also: no flushes, straights, and the like were made. Only their pocket pairs mattered.


---The final round---
Paul: chip leader w/ $23.00 (small blind)
Eric: short stack w/ $2.00 (big blind)
Mark: in between w/ $5.00 (dealer)

flop: 8c 4d 3c
Paul bets $2.00 and Eric calls, putting himself all-in. Mark then goes all-in and Paul calls, creating a $6.00 side pot between the two of them. Everyone flips their cards and obscenities start flying.

turn: 2h
river: Ac

Community cards: 8c 4d 3c 2h Ac
Paul: Qh/Qc
Eric: Jc/Jd
Mark: 10c/10s

First the side pot is dealt with, Paul's pair of queens beats Mark's pair of tens so Paul wins the $6.00. Next the main pot - won again by Paul's dominating queens. And there arose a problem - who wins second place? It wasn't so much the money for 2nd place, $5.00, as it was the principle. We wanted to know in case it happened again.

So what happens? Is there a second place at all? Does it matter that Eric had a better hand than Mark if they both lost to Paul anyway? The next question is what if they both had pocket tens? Then who would win second?


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Posted Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:04 pm GMT by Nut Flush
When 2 people are knocked out in the same hand of a tourney, the person that started with more chips places higher.

So even though Eric's Jacks beat Mark's tens, they were both beat by the Queens. since Mark started the hand with more chips, he finishes second.



Posted Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:20 pm GMT by darthsikle
In online sng's, don't they usually share 2nd place and the prize money??


Posted Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:47 pm GMT by Nut Flush
Quote:
In online sng's, don't they usually share 2nd place and the prize money??


Not that I'm aware of. I'm sure each site covers this in thier rules section or FAQ.



Posted Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:00 pm GMT by darthsikle
On Poker Party, when there was four people left in a $10 SNG, two of us went out at the same time and we each received $10...half of what you would receive for third place so I just assumed this was the case


Posted Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:19 pm GMT by Nut Flush
Pasted from Party Poker's Tournament section. Perhaps the two of you had identical stack sizes? If that is the case, the money would be split.

15. If two (or more) players are eliminated on the same hand, the player who started the hand with the most chips will be awarded the higher finishing position.

http://partypoker.com/games/tournaments/tournament_rules.html



Posted Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:44 pm GMT by darthsikle
Hmmm...that would be strange if we had identical stacks. Must be the case though.


Posted Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:15 pm GMT by cyberspector
Nut Flush wrote:
Pasted from Party Poker's Tournament section. Perhaps the two of you had identical stack sizes? If that is the case, the money would be split.


I was about to ask that question too. Thanks for the quick replies!






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